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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: As the cosmos goes from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse . . . Date: 29 Oct 2024 02:27:37 GMT Lines: 19 Message-ID: <loavgpFsbvtU1@mid.individual.net> References: <slrnvhnn9i.2ou1.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <vfh570$3brp2$2@dont-email.me> <20241025153958.0000222f@gmail.com> <vfhbt5$3d372$2@dont-email.me> <vfhkm0$3i0mb$1@dont-email.me> <lo3dvqFo19fU2@mid.individual.net> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.26--1.25pm.Seattle.2024> <xehTO.203223$WtV9.131792@fx10.iad> <vfk82g$3vb1l$2@dont-email.me> <QJ-cnZteHbigTID6nZ2dnZfqn_UAAAAA@earthlink.com> <vfl4jv$bic6$9@dont-email.me> <1cfe858a-0468-ad08-e261-bcb77b4d4f4c@example.net> <e56cncZww5IxioL6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com> <bcc48df9-c862-bc6d-ed6e-4255079b3fb5@example.net> <Yl6dnVGaD60rnr36nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net NyP5OvafzpAW/10qWI0qjQ07yOOhzRYgcY5g/VPLWlqOriW9g6 Cancel-Lock: sha1:1Ba51pQxGHEOhsFpwCrKKlWGfN8= sha256:Zn3z55QWnzw3LfiRFKb3HtcrGvFtRWoevk4OYngU1Sk= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2244 On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 17:35:38 -0400, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > If it's obvious, why don't I hear it much ? It represents a loss of > self-determination, a stone wall we can never penetrate ... forever > trapped in our little tiny warped version of the universe. > > Actually, Plato's "Allegory Of The Cave" points to the same > conclusion, he just kinda leaves off the last para - > maybe for political reasons. Plato and Buddha were near- > contemporaries and some ideas may have filtered across from the east. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prat%C4%ABtyasamutp%C4%81da "Shariputra, form does not differ from emptiness; emptiness does not differ from form. Form itself is emptiness, emptiness itself form. Sensations, perceptions, formations, and consciousness are also like this." 'The Heart Sutra'