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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
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Subject: Re: Daytime running light popularity
Date: 30 Oct 2024 23:40:09 GMT
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sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 10/29/2024 12:40 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> Not if there are paths etc that connect up, some of the older estates etc
>> have this, plus newer Low Traffic Areas ie making it awkward to use by car
>> as cut through but filters allow pedestrians/cycle etc to pass through.
>> 
>> But again depends on who and what you design for.
> 
> From personal experience I can tell you that residents often object to 
> bicycle infrastructure, including multi-use paths, protected bicycle 
> lanes, pedestrian/bicycle bridges, and passageways between 
> neighborhoods, but once they are in place they like them and none of the 
> problems that they were worried about happen.
> 
> There was one bridge in my area 
> <https://maps.app.goo.gl/wZxHdbrY8heYSDir9> that was closed because it 
> was unsafe. It provides a safe route to local schools. The residents on 
> one side of the bridge were very much against it being rebuilt, for a 
> variety of reasons that had no basis in fact. Now it's open, well-used 
> by both students and others wanting to access the park it goes into.
> 
> A proposed multi-use path along a creek had residents whose houses 
> backed up to the creek furious since they had believed that the access 
> road, that became the path, would never be open to the public (even 
> though it had been open in the past but without a nice trail). Once the 
> trail was completed it was fine and no one complains anymore 
> <https://maps.app.goo.gl/5pCeHZSPM1b9uts7A>. Some of the objections to 
> the trail were quite amusing. One woman said that there would be 
> teenagers engaging in "hanky-panky" on the trail. Another woman said 
> that vultures would pick up babies and fly away with them. Some 
> residents said that criminals would jump the fences and break into their 
> homes, though the reality is that criminals prefer to drive to their 
> targets to burglarize them.
> 

There is consistent curve, ie initial alarm and well change which people
dislike, but generally people like this n so it curves back to we like
this!

Hence political will is needed! And steady heads ie don’t just listen to
the minority with loud voices!

Roger Merriman