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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: What composes the mass of an electron? Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 12:50:20 +0800 Lines: 43 Message-ID: <lolpcdFibl9U1@mid.individual.net> References: <a3b70d34ff5188e99c00b2cf098e783a@www.novabbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net BnW8QrSwuwIhnYUrhy+mQQMR9mlHdXIK54zGr9EVgwLltCRMH/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ay8ojmQVK6XnrhFSJS5sKk9GfJY= sha256:NCv5Lc80az3MLizCjhnX0AFgvgrhcJEPttv4F2+jlPE= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <a3b70d34ff5188e99c00b2cf098e783a@www.novabbs.com> Bytes: 2585 On 02-Nov-24 2:13 am, rhertz wrote: > A definition of mass, as found in Google: > > "Mass is a measurement of the amount of matter or substance in an > object. > It's the total amount of protons, neutrons, and electrons in an object." > > It's "accepted" since the 60s that protons and neutrons are not > elementary particles anymore. As stated in the Standard Model of > Elementary Particles, protons and neutrons are composed of quarks, with > different flavors. > > https://www.quantumdiaries.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2000px-Standard_Model_of_Elementary_Particles.svg_.jpg > > But electrons are thought as elementary particles, so they can't be > formed by a collection of other elementary particles. Even quarks are > currently thought as working together with elementary gluons (QCD, Gauge > Bossons). > > So, what is THE MATTER that electrons contain? > > This is one of many FAILS of the current SMEP. > > Is that the electron's mass is composed of unknown matter? Maybe of > electromagnetic nature? > > After all, modern civilization is based on what electrons can do, isn't > it? > > > THEY KNOW NOTHING, AS IN RELATIVISM!. An expectation that everything can be explained in terms of other smaller things results in an infinite regression. It's not a rabbit hole one wants to descend into. While one can hypothesise that the electron is not elementary, so far there is nothing to suggest that it has an internal structure. Until and unless something comes along to indicate that it is not elementary, you have nothing more than empty speculation. Sylvia.