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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: 2 Nov 2024 05:48:10 GMT Lines: 31 Message-ID: <lolsoqFitdeU1@mid.individual.net> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <2ItTO.338744$v8v2.95701@fx18.iad> <vfltbc$7ek$1@gal.iecc.com> <ASCTO.586560$1m96.217020@fx15.iad> <vfpc6g$a0p$1@gal.iecc.com> <B17UO.740251$_o_3.409662@fx17.iad> <GV9UO.301902$kxD8.146393@fx11.iad> <loct65F6l90U2@mid.individual.net> <199392d0-9628-8177-2f3b-35b23a721dd4@example.net> <lodc4vF8rrjU1@mid.individual.net> <ddb44c1a-b458-5cce-b4d1-6258677f5621@example.net> <vft5ai$24n5h$1@dont-email.me> <086607f1-2283-f7fb-ddf9-ac4766b06530@example.net> <wfqdnZAVqbJdm776nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vfvjgt$2khfc$6@dont-email.me> <3RPUO.364883$v8v2.299927@fx18.iad> <vg0i0v$2pk7j$3@dont-email.me> <923ee618-5c3c-21fc-897e-506e73d054b7@example.net> <vg295g$36p2h$1@dont-email.me> <874j4qe60z.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net pr6ripeDjl66p1FVI9LVCAbO02SYQOsvp2KjA6e8cAFjzaxUeE Cancel-Lock: sha1:U948K7wqQoWiPJuG6ui4xPTz+lM= sha256:64C7yeWKvAF9PJ7CGaWkNSASVNQkoJLJe43BXnw3H0I= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2957 On Fri, 01 Nov 2024 16:14:20 -1000, Lynn Wheeler wrote: > US in the two wars exhausted an enormous stockpile of .50 caliber, some > dating back to ww2. I asked some people involved and they said that > policy was "suppressing fire" ... at slightest provocation until > ammunition was exhausted ... keeping enemy heads down and minimizing > returned fire. https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/hope_on_the_battlefield This is a short article by Dave Grossman. He has also written a couple of books like'On Combat: The Psychology and Physiology of Deadly Conflict in War and in Peace' and ' Warrior Mindset: Mental Toughness Skills for a Nation's Peacekeepers'. He draws on Marshall, whose study of WWII troop effectiveness is controversial and other sources. The basic premise is many soldiers are very reluctant to put their sights on a living human and shoot to kill. Marshall claimed only 25% of the troops even fired their weapons which critics say if improbable. Much harder to pin down is how many fire in the general direction of the enemy. Like the technique of only one live round for a firing squad they would rather not know if they killed anyone. Historically snipers weren't very popular. Their effectiveness was appreciated but the job description is 'cold-blooded killer'. Grossman goes into some of the modern desensitization techniques to train soldiers to do what they are supposed to do and how to handle the fallout.