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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: 2 Nov 2024 18:07:37 GMT Lines: 45 Message-ID: <lon839Fp569U1@mid.individual.net> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <2ItTO.338744$v8v2.95701@fx18.iad> <vfltbc$7ek$1@gal.iecc.com> <ASCTO.586560$1m96.217020@fx15.iad> <vfpc6g$a0p$1@gal.iecc.com> <B17UO.740251$_o_3.409662@fx17.iad> <GV9UO.301902$kxD8.146393@fx11.iad> <loct65F6l90U2@mid.individual.net> <199392d0-9628-8177-2f3b-35b23a721dd4@example.net> <lodc4vF8rrjU1@mid.individual.net> <ddb44c1a-b458-5cce-b4d1-6258677f5621@example.net> <vft5ai$24n5h$1@dont-email.me> <086607f1-2283-f7fb-ddf9-ac4766b06530@example.net> <wfqdnZAVqbJdm776nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vfvjgt$2khfc$6@dont-email.me> <3RPUO.364883$v8v2.299927@fx18.iad> <vg0i0v$2pk7j$3@dont-email.me> <6723f0c1@news.ausics.net> <d108e300-2756-4f88-941a-a70090b2a9ce@example.net> <lokjl3Fd136U1@mid.individual.net> <7bd05232-fb70-d3c8-d89a-be9f63d85207@example.net> <lolc4lFgiklU1@mid.individual.net> <483e3c29-b695-d91a-bab1-68264d17296f@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net zRibECt1/Dj5VfcCe51augjuvsIXbEZl+Iv+X2noxzTK9UT0Fx Cancel-Lock: sha1:4mHP1AWrDwp6aJDsHDDr3ch4N9M= sha256:2OKtXK32fQPvxg0dT4YNlYNbxuFrbBCSmM3c13+VNJI= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 3450 On Sat, 2 Nov 2024 11:40:50 +0100, D wrote: > One of my visions is to start an airline company based on modern > zeppelins. Instead of sitting in a small metal/carbon fibre tube for 8 > to 14 hours, I'd like the experience of crossing the ocean to be more > like a cruise ship. It might take 1 to 3 days or so, but you could walk > around, and enjoy a Michelin star restaurant on board. > > I just need to reach Branson or Musk and the thing should be done! > > After that, the space elevator! You're a little late... https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/flying-whales-airships-hnk-spc-intl/ index.html https://www.discovery.com/science/sustainable-aviation-will-reduce-jet- fuel-emissions-to-zero Hydrogen or electric powered conventional aircraft are a pipe dream. Both will work with a LTA shup. Then there's the helium versus hydrogen argument. The Hindenburg is what is printed on everyone's imagination. One of the little discussed points is Germany would have used helium but the US had control of almost all of the helium supplies and wasn't releasing any to Germany. It slips in and out of the news cycle as Chicken Little becomes aware of helium. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/us-just-sold-helium-stockpile- s-medical-world-worried-rcna134785 As usual the government had its thumb on the scales. The Helium Privatization Act of 1996 signed by Clinton allowed helium to be sold below market price putting some of the private suppliers out of business. I believe a German company, Messer, won the auction. Get you party balloons while they last. Perhaps with hydrogen becoming the darling of the alternate energy crowd it will lose its association with bombs and burning zepplins.