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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: 5 Nov 2024 01:18:21 GMT Lines: 23 Message-ID: <lota2sFmvonU1@mid.individual.net> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <2ItTO.338744$v8v2.95701@fx18.iad> <vfltbc$7ek$1@gal.iecc.com> <ASCTO.586560$1m96.217020@fx15.iad> <vfpc6g$a0p$1@gal.iecc.com> <B17UO.740251$_o_3.409662@fx17.iad> <vfqvjd$1k2j3$4@dont-email.me> <1190130485.752353610.782141.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <38b4c4eb-2ab5-df94-0baa-c2d7fcdda60d@example.net> <loqhlbFa80gU1@mid.individual.net> <b2f1adfc-40d5-4462-f3ad-8c4e010fadac@example.net> <losho1Fjbq4U3@mid.individual.net> <7c5edef0-d4ec-a8fc-3f70-8ffa2a2b1df0@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net POEpzR3Myj8l69MRd4ie/wUIP2V7kXc9dThsc944qXhEaayEgy Cancel-Lock: sha1:kAA+bSqAPRn+3jplLfr0ux7pz9s= sha256:8hFMAj2svxz6CKpIldL3Sj1O59e8kvIhPypLHWj/DOE= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2495 On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 21:41:30 +0100, D wrote: > Today... many are not capable today. But give it a 100 years or two, and > with the progress of psychology and the school system, I'm sure that > focus will be to equip people to live meaningful lives, instead of just > being compliant cogs. I had a very brief career as a math and science teacher. The school system used homogeneous grouping meaning the classes were broken up according to the perceived potential of the students. A was the college bound, B possibly would make it to college or a skilled trade, C most likely would be unskilled labor, and D was for dummies. Being the new hire I saw a lot of the D section. They were ineducable. To put it plainly they didn't give a shit and their parents didn't give a shit. They were marking time until they turned 16 and could get working papers. To further clarify, there was one black kid. The rest were run of the mill white trash. I did have to relieve the black kid of his straight razor. The white kids knew better than to play with their toys in class. The tranches were roughly equal, so that was 25% of the student body. The C kids might have fared better but this was a mill town and the mills were leaving.