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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Date: 7 Nov 2024 03:54:13 GMT Lines: 24 Message-ID: <lp2rv4F6t6tU1@mid.individual.net> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <2ItTO.338744$v8v2.95701@fx18.iad> <vfltbc$7ek$1@gal.iecc.com> <ASCTO.586560$1m96.217020@fx15.iad> <vfpc6g$a0p$1@gal.iecc.com> <B17UO.740251$_o_3.409662@fx17.iad> <GV9UO.301902$kxD8.146393@fx11.iad> <loct65F6l90U2@mid.individual.net> <199392d0-9628-8177-2f3b-35b23a721dd4@example.net> <lodc4vF8rrjU1@mid.individual.net> <ddb44c1a-b458-5cce-b4d1-6258677f5621@example.net> <vft5ai$24n5h$1@dont-email.me> <086607f1-2283-f7fb-ddf9-ac4766b06530@example.net> <log009Fm2poU1@mid.individual.net> <1403284140.752354931.877496.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vgaium$ul44$19@dont-email.me> <569224263.752622482.614484.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 5f01Lsfx7IpEWoWdnT8UVA5r4zXLMnVm0X4op1IaXw+FYDpSxE Cancel-Lock: sha1:6GqzL1UBDm8DOQdV7qILK/BBvXs= sha256:oFEfGMFXKIicfNwvKNY0//8z86ktaPDkuyrmyWSHAqg= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2631 On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 18:31:13 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: > The Indians only had bison, which I don’t think domesticate well. I would have to do some research but many of the Plains tribes had been pushed west where they would encounter bison relatively late, either by the Iroquois or whites. It took a few centuries or maybe millennia to turn an aurochs into a milk cow. They may have figured it out eventually. The harvesting technique wasn't too subtle. https://fwp.mt.gov/first-peoples-buffalo-jump I worked with an archaeologist whose primary function was doing back country surveys for the Forest Service but we made a little side trip to check out one of his theories. The area has quite a few drainages that run up to the Idaho divide. The lower parts aren't too bad but they become progressively steeper. His theory was they would drive up the drainage while the hunters were up on the headwall waiting for the exhausted animals to clamor out. He had a tendency to see teepee rings and other artifacts that looked like random rocks to me so I was a little skeptical until I stumbled over a Folsom point in a blowout.