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From: Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com>
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Subject: Re: SF writers in the work force JD Vance.
Date: 10 Nov 2024 15:09:59 GMT
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On 2024-11-10, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 10/11/24 15:06, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>> On 11/9/2024 3:11 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> Dude, JD Vance was a Marine Corps officer, not Army.  And his
>>> grandfather just lived down the street during his childhood with
>>> extensive contact.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_Vance
>
> I am not familiar with the different branches of your military. The
> point was that he had a cushy desk job as a spin doctor, was never in
> danger and never shook a stick at the enemy.

A Marine does what they're told to do. He enlisted, all gung-ho, while
in high school and not knowing what he wanted to do, a month after the
US declared war on Iraq. Certainly no guarantees of non-combat and zero
expectations that he wouldn't be in danger.

Since you're non-US, some background on the Marines. Their slogan, until
recently, was "The Few, the Proud". They're the smallest enlistment
branch, and by far have the most intensive, hellish training. *Nobody*
joins the Marines in search of a cushy desk job.

Based on his service and time in Iraq, he probably is the one most
leery of the use of military force among the major party final
candidates for many decades. Certainly much more than the Clintons or
Biden (who knows about Harris). Regarding the Iraq war, he says
   American foreign policy establishment has learned zero lessons from what
   is perhaps the most unforced and catastrophic error in the history
   of this country.
He was against most of the war on terror, and is against the massive
military aid to Ukraine and Israel.  He has issues, but worries about
him becoming another Hitler are just ridiculous (even though he was
indeed a corporal as another has argued.)

Chris