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Subject: Re: The hamburger
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On 14/11/2024 19:47, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 11/13/2024 1:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2024-11-13 12:28 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 11/13/2024 6:30 AM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Most American pie crusts, and American baked goods in general are 
>>>> crap because they are full of crappy ingredients.
>>>
>>> I've adapted grandma's pie crust recipe to use frozen butter instead 
>>> of Crisco.  I've never met a decent (grocery) store bought pastry, ick.
>>
>> Good for you. I have never used one but I have had "home made" pies 
>> that were made with them.  They are, IMO, inferior to real home made 
>> pie dough. The worse home made pie crust is probably better than the 
>> best store bought. However, we have to accept the sad fact that some 
>> people really struggle with dough making and rolling.  It is not just 
>> a matter of convenience because they just can't do it.  I consider 
>> myself lucky to have learned how to make it and that I find it easy.
> 
> Luckily I got the hang of it fairly easily.  I found that cold butter is 
> a much better texture than Crisco.  I've never tried lard, that will be 
> a project for some day.

Try half lard, half butter.