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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jhulian Waldby <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: [Bell of Lost Souls] It's Canon: Baldur's Gate 3 Brings D&D To The Vatican Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:31:43 -0600 Lines: 50 Message-ID: <lq2841FudtuU1@mid.individual.net> References: <vh2bfe$mbi$5@ereborbbs.duckdns.org> <vh5h3g$2uvte$1@dont-email.me> <f758f26b5a34db8340a8c1163c7934fd76dbb769@i2pn2.org> <vh70uo$jo5$5@ereborbbs.duckdns.org> <96cfjjtj2pbhif7vqrdsclrtepcggk3ebe@4ax.com> <vh8tp7$3mft8$2@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net vDHTlkFDmkhJ5M5JVBUa7AOlrWmZTDMZJa/QcVaQzcUWdSaY4z Cancel-Lock: sha1:Q7VdySc55swPubhGqn/OZH7fQfc= sha256:JFAzwj3CMrlXJDwKfAjl/VMF29HBGMI5jeruF4s+GS8= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 In-Reply-To: <vh8tp7$3mft8$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3463 Dimensional Traveler wrote: > On 11/15/2024 12:37 PM, Zaghadka wrote: >> Top post. First off, please knock it off with the non ANSI characters. >> >> I've never had so much trouble posting a reply. >> >> On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:32:27 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >> Kyonshi wrote: >> >>> On 11/15/2024 1:11 AM, Justisaur wrote: >>>> On 11/14/2024 10:55 AM, Ross Ridge wrote: >>>>> Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being >>>>>> installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never >>>>>> let anyone tell you who you are. >>>>> >>>>> I'm sure D&D was played in some form in the precincts of the Vatican >>>>> long before Baldur's Gate 3 was released. Maybe even during the time >>>>> when the Satanic Panic thing was raging in the US and to a lesser >>>>> extent >>>>> the rest of the English speaking world, but not so much in Italy. >>>> >>>> I don't know that it was Catholics going after D&D. BADD was >>>> popularized by evangelicals - specifically the TV kind. Jack Chick was >>>> was some very weird offshoot of Baptist. >>>> >>> >>> And I think D&D was too niche back then to even touch some area like >>> that (which is after all just the size of a small town, even in the >>> middle of a metropolis), especially as a lot of inhabitants of the >>> Vatican city are elder professionals. >>> >>> One would have to look up when DnD was released in Italian maybe. >> >> All I know, and excuse me if I'm repeating this story for the 19th time, >> is that my Irish Catholic grandmother bought me a first print 1e *Deities >> & Demigods* for freaking Easter. I asked for it, and she was all "Yup." >> So no, I don't think her priest was railing against Satan in D&D. >> > I'm pretty sure it was an American phoneme. > I guess the concern is that players may become unable to differentiate the truth from the water elemental. I've noticed this in some Dungeon Masters who argue rules as if it were a physics laboratory. Not one hint of "this is fiction" or "we can't find a rule for that." Funny though, I haven't heard anyone mention Satanism in D&D for yrs. That all stopped a week before I picked up Basic Dungeons & Dragons. Who were those people? I couldn't tell you, I've forgotten.