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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
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Subject: Re: China clamps down on those damned bicyclists
Date: 21 Nov 2024 14:49:32 GMT
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AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> On 11/21/2024 4:53 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>> Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 20:22:21 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 11:47:52 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/20/2024 11:22 AM, Shadow wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 09:27:31 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202411/11/WS67315c6fa310f1265a1cc95c.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "For university students, grabbing a shared bike ...."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What's a "shared bike" ? Not a tandem, judging from the pics.
>>>>>> There is only one person on each bike.
>>>>>> []'s
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rental fleets like this:
>>>>> https://divvybikes.com/how-it-works
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which is a modern system. In 1967, Amsterdm had a 'white
>>>>> bike' share system for basic commuter bicycles. Painted
>>>>> white with directions printed, anyone could ride one, park
>>>>> it in a public area and leave it for the next person to use.
>>>>> That actually worked for Nederlanders for a time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-02-26/the-dutch-anarchists-who-launched-a-bikesharing-revolution
>>>>> 
>>>>> (photos!)
>>>> 
>>>> I had no idea anything like that existed. What an amazing
>>>> project.
>>>> Here in Brazil gangs of armed robbers "hijack" riders.
>>>> Sometimes the rider is armed, so they take his bike AND his gun...
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> A similar system was tried here and there, notably in my
>>>>> city in 1971 (I worked on that and built/painted many bikes
>>>>> from used/scrap).  They were mostly pulled from the lake a
>>>>> year later, with the rest completely disappeared. Different
>>>>> culture I suppose.
>>>> 
>>>> If people are taught that socialism is a "bad" thing, I would
>>>> not expect anything else. They will never understand the concept of
>>>> "ours". They only understand "mine".
>>> 
>>> Most people don't need to be taught that socialism is a "bad" thing.
>>> All they have to do is understand what it is.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> C'est bon
>>> Soloman
>>> 
>> 
>> Judging by the (American) comments on here I’d say they largely don’t and
>> confuse it with communism etc.
>> 
>> Roger Merriman
>> 
> 
> Marx, who ought to know, used the two terms interchangeably 
> except in an instance where he wrote that socialism is a 
> necessary intermediate step to communism.
> 

I’m sure he did! And deliberately so but doesn’t make it true!

Roger Merriman