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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Linux 6.12 New preemption model Date: 22 Nov 2024 06:52:37 GMT Lines: 35 Message-ID: <lqao1lF8btnU1@mid.individual.net> References: <lqaj63F7fi9U1@mid.individual.net> <vhp8hp$12m83$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net svhjtqq3JU+fXuzKfATi0Qi9qU8RUgnAGAFozA+uxVJuawia59 Cancel-Lock: sha1:/RQ8MH6ziJc1J7rzKcHrN+k49pM= sha256:e63ZXUWGUBhbjctcNI5AHnQD8Eoa5ezPNyu0WYYb4kE= X-Face: +McU)#<-H?9lTb(Th!zR`EpVrp<0)1p5CmPu.kOscy8LRp_\u`:tW;dxPo./(fCl CaKku`)]}.V/"6rISCIDP` User-Agent: Pan/0.161 (Hmm2; be402cc9; Linux-6.12.0) Bytes: 2378 On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 06:32:25 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <vhp8hp$12m83$1@dont-email.me>: > On 22 Nov 2024 05:29:39 GMT, vallor wrote: > >> Just decided in the name of Science(!), I gotta try this, and see what >> it does to running graphical games, such as Elite Dangerous. Wish me >> luck! > > I’m going to stick my neck out and say this isn’t going to help. > PREEMPT_RT is for hard realtime, like pro audio/music processing where you > have to send/receive so many bytes every millisecond, otherwise quality > noticeably suffers. Things that are limited by human reflexes, like video > games, likely will not benefit. Human reflexes are measured in tenths of a > second, which is plenty of time to get things done in non-realtime > kernels. I was more expecting (perhaps) smoother video and audio when the system was under load. We'll have to see, I couldn't go through with it: dkms build of nvidia modules threw warnings about unknown scheduler and mutex symbols. Also, same for some Thelio modules. When the NVIDIA drivers catch up, I'll try it...or I might try nouveau, though I'm reluctant to fight with that at this late hour. (I think all I need is the Vulkan extensions from Mesa, since my game uses DXVK -- but those extensions are in pretty rough shape, so I've read.) -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.12.0 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G "If it walks out of your refrigerator, LET IT GO !!"