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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Fine Tuning Shifting Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2024 17:50:49 -0700 Lines: 28 Message-ID: <lqddbj1ckprrssp2h2lti63uqvnobbuhga@4ax.com> References: <18yoO.17738$iptd.15227@fx36.iad> <v7ue18$2eiph$1@dont-email.me> <v7v3ti$2lkdi$4@dont-email.me> <v80sp3$2ubgg$5@dont-email.me> <fdvpO.100998$xYQc.52312@fx12.iad> <v85vgr$18a3$1@dont-email.me> <v8fls8$23afj$2@dont-email.me> <EowtO.337208$a6n5.269308@fx15.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net eooR/+98gQ6S3KSWs2r2/gTi9u6H66kq++o+PPnKTvJfulKeLJ Cancel-Lock: sha1:xjiPfCXECxHZ312oXzzpFQ9NEiw= sha256:uWPeJXt9hY/RpClXtl4Oi3WRJd46IglRdZM2A1RvRNA= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Bytes: 2120 On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 22:05:24 GMT, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote: >Why don't you impress us by telling us the EXACT procedure >you would use to electronically measure line length? I'm waiting? Easy. Even you can do it. Just follow the articles or videos on how to use a TDR (time domain reflectometer). Notice that there's no PWM (pulse width modulation) involved: <https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+use+a+TDR> <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+use+a+TDR> I have two of these cheap TDR's: "Cheap and simple TDR using an oscilloscope and 74AC14 Schmitt Trigger Inverter" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cP6w2odGUc> and a NanoVNA: "Using the nano vna as a TDR (time domain reflectometer)" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrfAv6bXYkA> Now, it's your turn. Why don't you impress us by telling us the EXACT procedure you would use to electronically measure line length using PWM? Show your setup and your arithmetic. I'm waiting? -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558