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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Date: 25 Nov 2024 23:55:21 GMT Lines: 26 Message-ID: <lqkh38Fpp09U2@mid.individual.net> References: <vhigot$1uakf$1@dont-email.me> <6iKdnTQOKNh6AqD6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vhl090$5ghq$1@dont-email.me> <w4adnUM659THQqP6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com> <vhndam$ljks$1@dont-email.me> <871pz4osys.fsf@comcast.net.invalid> <vhp646$12c7u$1@dont-email.me> <pgidnQQYp91K_dz6nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vhsdhp$1m6qu$2@dont-email.me> <X4KcnQQzFNko49_6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vhvdmo$2900d$3@dont-email.me> <vhvdqu$28p7r$7@dont-email.me> <vhvm34$2aerk$2@dont-email.me> <1b166410-ecc1-f9e5-7218-cde9618f4686@example.net> <lqi4odFdu06U3@mid.individual.net> <77840736-c143-e896-5da0-d0afae4915ed@example.net> <vi1p3r$2oh05$7@dont-email.me> <2118139f-4451-560b-5094-a3d61c05f0d3@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 96bQSMwQzowWzISmGOwh1QPcpeK3gTljZ7Zy/c7gEwL+7/ndr1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:/ak+wI1kASHowt7tHZzWPdC4kEY= sha256:ji4mID/mO5qou6j11/pMNZyiRg1c8L9h7mN92vuX8IY= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2671 On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 22:20:02 +0100, D wrote: > On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 25/11/2024 09:55, D wrote: >>> The problem with python is the quality of the ecosystem and the 2 to 3 >>> shift. I find the quality of python libraries lower than in perl. But >>> I imagine that is due to there simply being more of them, and that it >>> is a "live" language. Perhaps I found the quality better in perl, >>> since the libraries that remain are old and mature. >> >> The problem with Python is it seems to be the new BASIC. >> An entry point for PWCP People Who Cant Program. > > I see that as elitist. The more people who can learn to do simple > programming, and simplify their lives, the better! Python doesn't have a lock on the domain. I worked with a PhD chemist who programmed in Fortran. He knew his chemistry but his Fortran looked like a train wreck. The math was good and could be extracted into production code. Many People Who Can't Program evolve into People Who Can Program or have valuable expertise in a field where being able to express it, however awkwardly, is valuable. One of the job descriptions of a good manager is the ability to tell the difference.