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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Date: 6 Dec 2024 20:51:14 GMT Lines: 15 Message-ID: <lrh6e1FdnlbU4@mid.individual.net> References: <vhigot$1uakf$1@dont-email.me> <lquh5lFdis3U4@mid.individual.net> <ef771d8d-3130-0814-7faa-59c574dcf510@example.net> <lqv3jsFgkhsU3@mid.individual.net> <d9f48dd4-eab8-4cf8-b163-3651be59711d@example.net> <vifmf1$1sj76$3@dont-email.me> <df71277f-b9c7-7358-c90d-27b02f8b5023@example.net> <vihe72$2di13$1@dont-email.me> <f6570ff2-9de5-8af5-2767-45e58911aaa2@example.net> <lr3qqvF991qU4@mid.individual.net> <vik23d$38qdo$2@dont-email.me> <495550f7-796e-4414-67ae-26d3f8ba16f1@example.net> <slrnvkvl5e.197.spamtrap42@one.localnet> <33442f75-5afe-ce6b-d5b2-19efc78a72d3@example.net> <viph19$rnso$5@dont-email.me> <2c1fb128-258b-7848-e896-3246674d460f@example.net> <lrbnamFhpcpU3@mid.individual.net> <2d814efc-b5f8-a1f9-d273-77016cb3cbae@example.net> <AoycnTASZ6Hq0Mz6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> <ee978553-b4ea-0239-e93a-bbefa289c9d5@example.net> <virs73$1gno5$3@dont-email.me> <9cGcnY0c8c3LA8_6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> <6465d1f8-6fab-e3bd-0345-86011937364d@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net VVB3NGDRgKJb+v/pKXsnjw9LeQ7VtOeA74fT7SnqKX2PIDMyNt Cancel-Lock: sha1:REMCEJOIaF0oimpLbFwLgOC5Mc4= sha256:3TOY46ZjkCx42Vm3Brp449qOHJJKJM33ZsXYEdNz4wo= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2310 On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 10:09:11 +0100, D wrote: > Don't even go there. Natural and I had very lively discussions on that > theme. But yes, I'm in the camp of the people who accept the real world > as a fact, and that without humans, there's no ethics, math, true or > false. Buddhism has the concept of two truths, conventional and ultimate. Conventionally I went out this morning to feed two cats. Ultimately 'cat' is a construct I imposed and there aren't two of anything. https://thebuddhistcentre.com/system/files/groups/files/heart_sutra.pdf Nietzsche condensed into a couple of hundred Chinese ideograms...