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From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
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Subject: Re: Joy of this, Joy of that
Date: 7 Dec 2024 19:07:02 GMT
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On Sat, 7 Dec 2024 13:30:57 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> To do that level of damage requires a bit more than even a high velocity
> .22 can manage. I believe those have a tendency to go straight through.

There has been a good deal of development over the years to get reliable 
expansion. Even the .22 LR has seen improvements.

https://www.cci-ammunition.com/uppercut/the-new-defender.html

CCI worked with the FBI spec ballistic gelatin to get reliable expansion. 
The rounds don't expand in the more popular clear gelatin so it comes down 
to which test more accurately represents the human body.  They are a far 
cry from .223 rounds but make .22 LR a little more feasible for self 
defense. 

Even the traditional lever action calibers have seen work to improve their 
performance and overcome the restrictions of tubular magazines.