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Path: ...!news.roellig-ltd.de!open-news-network.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Date: 10 Dec 2024 00:42:30 GMT Lines: 47 Message-ID: <lrph3mFoh0sU4@mid.individual.net> References: <o4ucnYo2YLqmZ876nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vj1m3f$33eu5$16@dont-email.me> <aS2dnU8NvNJ3qsj6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <lrl33gF2rglU1@mid.individual.net> <9eb45192-e996-fa3d-b002-c02798bb2b7a@example.net> <lrmmorFb62qU1@mid.individual.net> <7e375fa6-9dad-927b-ebcb-898b6adafc00@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net blrxviBwaVbrWvLzp0PzgwMDI7l2JlUuU6F2OHeGwVF3CcDwvS Cancel-Lock: sha1:ejpQZwWuMgCM54HX53OW21I7H/Q= sha256:G/MB1PnWm9UNgUWZ9lC3h+1H/uU/3QvwyGPt09BC2GE= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2931 On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 10:44:32 +0100, D wrote: > On Mon, 8 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote: > >> Then there is the problem that most hydrogen comes from processing >> natural gas rather than green alternative energy sources. >> >> > Very interesting! Had no idea! I find it funny that this is somehow > never meantioned by the green crowd. https://www.brightgreenlies.com/book 'Bright Green Lies' by Derrik Jensen. Jensen is not a fossil fuels industry apologist by any means. He is one of the founders of Deep Green Resistance that is considered too radical by some environmentalists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Green_Resistance The book gets somewhat redundant as he works his way through the various green technologies. For each he starts with the extractive industries that are required. Solar cells? There are two prevalent technologies for PV cells. One uses cadmium and tellurium and the other copper, gallium, and indium, plus silicon. What is the impact of producing these materials? How are they mined, transported, and processed? How much heavy equipment must be produced? How much energy is used during the smelting or other processing? What other materials are needed for completed PV panels? After the PV panels are produced, what is required for site preparation? What are the ecological impacts of huge solar projects? What is required to produce and install the distribution network? The same analysis is done for wind, hydro, and so forth. The 'renewable energy' technology is the tip of a huge iceberg of antecedent processes studiously ignored by the bright green environmentalists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_green_environmentalism They parallel the cornucopians that believe there will always be a technological solution to allow our comfortable life style without taking any hard decisions.