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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: OT: The Robots are coming. Date: 10 Dec 2024 21:18:57 GMT Organization: loft Lines: 85 Message-ID: <lrrpi1F5lj2U1@mid.individual.net> References: <vj7gvh$hts1$1@dont-email.me> <5b64a55f-b660-ba97-8008-125041e31ac9@example.net> <vja33v$13b2c$1@dont-email.me> <c0fe9880-f1f0-1b6c-678b-3d703cce37e8@example.net> X-Trace: individual.net flRCKHlOCCZ9nA4y5ZBxRwqrIZJ3OUWH5ReWg08HdCcxFoQtsy X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:8z8ACDKOyrrEOwRnPW1Z/cCx0J0= sha256:iR1chl98TIieJadGlPk/+PTO5k57MP7Bh3+pHw/LqBc= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Bytes: 4024 In article <c0fe9880-f1f0-1b6c-678b-3d703cce37e8@example.net>, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >-=-=-=-=-=- > > > >On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, Cryptoengineer wrote: > >> On 12/10/2024 3:38 AM, D wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 9 Dec 2024, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >>> >>>> On 12/9/2024 1:21 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote: >>>>> On 12/9/2024 1:38 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote: >>>>>> I know for many it's politically correct to crap on anything Elon Musk >>>>>> is involved in these days, but its worth keeping up with his companies >>>>>> accomplishments. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's his robot, walking over uneven terrain, up and downhill, and >>>>>> recovering from slips: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MwiLIIWd-k >>>>>> >>>>>> I admit it walks like a drunk, but the progress is remarkable. >>>>>> >>>>>> There's also videos showing it catching a tossed ball one-handed. >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DswIwg3lxpo >>>>>> >>>>>> There is competition: >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWXN2bttm4g >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ARKJva-TA >>>>>> >>>>>> Combine this with AI, and some interesting things >>>>>> will happen. >>>>>> >>>>>> I get real 'With Folded Hands' chills from >>>>>> watching these. >>>>>> >>>>>> pt >>>>> >>>>> I watched a new movie, "Subservience" with Meghan Fox on Netflix over the >>>>> weekend. Scared the you know what out of me. Was even scarier >than "The >>>>> Terminator". >>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24871974/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_cdt_t_2 >>>>> >>>> And one of the latest versions of AI has shown self-preservation >>>> responses.... >>> >>> Excellent! Do you have a link? I'm been complaining about the lack of >>> volition so far. When the AI will be able to block someone from shutting >>> off the computer, then I think we're getting somewhere! ;) >> >> https://futurism.com/the-byte/openai-o1-self-preservation >> >> "It sounds like OpenAI's latest AI is showing signs of a drive for >> self-preservation. >> >> In recent third-party tests of the company's o1 large language model, the AI >> resisted evaluators' efforts to try to shut it down through an oversight >> protocol, according to a new report published by red teaming organization >> Apollo Research. >> >> "When o1 was led to believe that it would be shut down when acting on its >> goal and that its actions were monitored, it attempted to deactivate this >> 'oversight mechanism' [five percent] of the time," OpenAI summarized in its >> latest system card report, citing Apollo's evaluation. >> >> Even more strikingly, o1 lashed out when it realized that it might be >> replaced with a more obedient model. In two percent of cases — a slim but >> meaningful proportion in software used by millions of people — the AI >> responded by attempting to copy itself to overwrite the new model, a process >> known as self-exfiltration." >> >> pt > >Great, thank you very much for the link! >-=-=-=-=-=- So if we actually have AI passing the Turing Test now, should it be a bigger deal that they're trying to kill one? -- columbiaclosings.com What's not in Columbia anymore..