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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Date: 13 Dec 2024 01:29:53 GMT Lines: 32 Message-ID: <ls1h0hF3c94U1@mid.individual.net> References: <vhigot$1uakf$1@dont-email.me> <virs73$1gno5$3@dont-email.me> <9cGcnY0c8c3LA8_6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> <6465d1f8-6fab-e3bd-0345-86011937364d@example.net> <lrh6e1FdnlbU4@mid.individual.net> <a97cff3a-7a2a-2797-f17f-4fa39a18a523@example.net> <vj1jdg$33eu5$7@dont-email.me> <lrjl8cFq671U3@mid.individual.net> <ed403392-950e-e1a7-f320-6da768eae20b@example.net> <lrkih3Fd5bU1@mid.individual.net> <77a225ca-c45c-dd19-fc45-e2de5f7963be@example.net> <lrml1gFaa38U4@mid.individual.net> <12bd40ae-a14e-7772-cb7a-5bf427664dec@example.net> <lrpc0kFnkplU3@mid.individual.net> <1a9e8e48-13eb-8276-cd59-1a31218d1dfb@example.net> <lrrj9aF4og5U1@mid.individual.net> <ceccead2-2c2f-1db7-4d71-e12576e6010b@example.net> <lrs93jF7n0tU1@mid.individual.net> <698b7064-5f49-d7b5-39e7-c18a513154ef@example.net> <lrurh7Fknh0U1@mid.individual.net> <73f2019d-9a05-68eb-c3f6-e88a32fd334f@example.net> <ls0u6gFembU1@mid.individual.net> <367885be-9825-94b4-cd4e-c3a2684bc29c@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net egqXnSR8Pce5ptUzYrwBEAvI4QXUMsWiBy+g2d0r5fT5BzD1e6 Cancel-Lock: sha1:cVf9fecb88lrESWx8CaYVo5G3Tw= sha256:9zuxZ0wqeCA+U0aSO7eiVXjegVz9UWRRCFNaklBPllI= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 3261 On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:31:39 +0100, D wrote: > I find Schopenhauer opaque and too negative, and way too wordy. Kant and > Hume I never read in the original but only filtered through Coplestones > history of philosophy and did not feel like I needed the originals. Schopenhauer is the original Debbie Downer. In Hollingdale's introduction to the 'Essays and Aphorisms' selection he theorizes the philosophy reflects the personality which was molded by events. The family business went bankrupt and it was a struggle for him to get his money. However he was stubborn and persistent, making out better than the other creditors. Then there was his fling at teaching when he scheduled his class in the same time slot as Hegel's. Nobody came. He could have rescheduled but chose to resign. 'Will' didn't fly off the shelves. His mother was an author in her own right. He said that his works would be around long after hers were gone. She replied with something like, 'Yeah the entire first edition will still be unsold.' They didn't get along well. It's been years but iirc Hume's 'An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding' was quite readable. His first attempt 'Treatise of Human Nature' was stillborn so he tried again. Hume triggered Kant's rebuttal and Schopenhauer thought highly of him. I think he gets mentioned once by Nietzsche lumped with the 'English physiologists'. I don't think I made it through Copleston's entire History but I definitely remember the cheap paperback volumes. I did make it as far a Zeno, that's for sure.