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From: vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
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Subject: Re: Why MacOS is not a "fun" Unix to work with
Date: 15 Dec 2024 03:02:17 GMT
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On 15 Dec 2024 02:14:12 GMT, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote in
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> # time -p tmutil latestbackup
> tmutil: latestbackup requires Full Disk Access privileges.
> To allow this operation, select Full Disk Access in the Privacy
> tab of the Security & Privacy preference pane, and add Terminal
> to the list of applications which are allowed Full Disk Access.
> real 59.67
> user 0.00
> sys 0.00
>  _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> 
> So it takes almost a full minute to give an "access denied"?
> 
> Also, I already added Terminal to the list.  MacOS wants something else.
> 
> I can run the command from the Terminal on the console, but not via ssh.
> 
> In the "Full Disk Access" application list, there's a "+" to add another
> application.  Clicking that gives a file dialog, but there is no way
> to point it at /usr/sbin/sshd.
> 
> Linux wouldn't do this to me.
> 
> To check Time Machine status, I have to vnc in to the console -- where the
> frame rate at login goes into the dirt, because Sequoia has a lovely moving
> background on the login screen.
> 
> Honestly, I don't think these kids can steer...

I'll give you another one.

I have two screenshots on my Desktop, both are png's.

However:
_[/Users/scott]_(scott@Mac)🍏_
$ cd Desktop
_[/Users/scott/Desktop]_(scott@Mac)🍏_
$ ls
ls: .: Operation not permitted
_[/Users/scott/Desktop]_(scott@Mac)🍏_
$ cd ..
_[/Users/scott]_(scott@Mac)🍏_
$ ls -ld Desktop
drwx------+ 8 scott  staff  256 Dec 13 13:45 Desktop

Do you know how exceedingly stupid that is?  And removing the acl
didn't do any good -- I had to retreat to vnc and use the terminal
there to copy the screenshots out of my Desktop directory.

tl;dr:  MacOS is not a "fun" Unix to work with.

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