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From: vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
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Subject: Even the Mac Studio is a slug
Date: 16 Dec 2024 16:52:11 GMT
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 11:40:49 -0500, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
wrote in <vjpl6h$16vl2$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 12/16/24 10:25 AM, Joel wrote:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Likewise, we've also seen how a Mac mini stops the living shit out
>>>>> of your i5 DIY, while costing less than the $1150 you've spent to
>>>>> date. So just where is this so-called 'fortune' that people
>>>>> allegedly pay?
>>>>
>>>> The Mac mini is OK, I wouldn't say it "stops the living shit out of"
>>>> my machine.  It runs Apple's goofy OS, in any event.
>>>
>>> *stomp   Apologies for a typo.
>>>
>>> We've already seen the CPU benchmarks and disk I/O.  If not "stomp",
>>> then how do you want to describe being higher at a lower price?
>>> Especially since there's no OS monopoly anymore either:
>>>
>>> <https://asahilinux.org/about/>
>> 
>> 
>> A Mac mini purchased when I built my machine wouldn't be any faster
>> than what I have.
> 
> The 2020 mini model would have been cheaper.
> The current mini model is faster & cheaper.
> 
>>>> If I had spent a comparable amount on a comparable OEM PC, it'd not
>>>> be nearly as good.  That's undeniable.
>>>
>>> Except of course for how its already been shown that you could have
>>> bought your so-called "overpriced" Apple gear for less & gotten
>>> more...
>>>
>>> ...and your retort is that the OEM OS is "goofy", even though Linux is
>>> an alternative.
>> 
>> I see Linux as the default OS, actually, it's M$ and Apple that are
>> proprietary, commercial platforms, consumerism, not real computing
>> enthusiasm.
> 
> Yet that didn't stop you from buying & running on Windows OS for the
> first ~2/3rds of the life of your current PC.

People's needs change, as well as their education.

Both Mac Mini's I've owned have been underpowered slugs.  Even
the Mac Studio can be sluggish, when it really shouldn't be, especially
considering the pretty penny we paid for it.

_[/Users/scott]_(scott@Mac)🍏_
$ cat try.c
#include <stdio.h>
#include <limits.h>

int main (void)
{

printf("%d\n",NGROUPS_MAX);

return 0;
}
 _[/Users/scott]_(scott@Mac)🍏_
$ rm try
_[/Users/scott]_(scott@Mac)🍏_
$ time -p make try
cc     try.c   -o try
real 4.27
user 0.08
sys 0.16

 _ _ _ _ _ _ _

This is supposed to be halfway to being a Mac Pro workstation,
but it's sluggish.

 ...and no, I'm not cross-posting this all over hell and
back.  ng's snecked.

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