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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The Joy of *small* business Date: 18 Dec 2024 19:11:32 GMT Lines: 43 Message-ID: <lsgl33Fh7naU1@mid.individual.net> References: <o4ucnYo2YLqmZ876nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com> <f151e38b-7df5-0909-bed3-620be477a87f@example.net> <ls109dFembU6@mid.individual.net> <0186e59b-8801-2a6a-c38c-dc4bbddc86cc@example.net> <ls3n02Fdp3qU4@mid.individual.net> <kg37P.1880$aTp4.536@fx09.iad> <ls3vtsFfeshU1@mid.individual.net> <a1de0886-53c4-c8b9-858a-3ea8dffbef61@example.net> <ls62mqFp95nU4@mid.individual.net> <slrnvlru0j.2f6j8.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <19ebc64d-c683-a046-e19b-9cdc51c81226@example.net> <slrnvltomo.32d7h.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <ls8q31F8i1nU2@mid.individual.net> <b6418115-7645-8dd3-30e3-304dee2375cd@example.net> <vducnSQpyvFJKcL6nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <lsbjodFn55gU9@mid.individual.net> <uaydnVxLl7sdQ_36nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com> <1248675b-e38a-04a7-93b3-6fa527725858@example.net> <vjrjnh$1mjo7$7@dont-email.me> <lse9fqF5ikfU10@mid.individual.net> <WsOcnaUN_rSgxf_6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <lsfapdFb5liU1@mid.individual.net> <vju6h8$2832d$3@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net v0AMwM3QuL4cb/RkzXcSug2NFUmvyKbqbYBsMaT/16n3aUa3C7 Cancel-Lock: sha1:YpLwDFNZ9HkHpKoQ4qFuVeNgi2c= sha256:x+/W1rTXtdzASmErRxOcR/Vu9pBY4XJ8NEdJHu5kWm0= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 3527 On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 10:01:12 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 18/12/2024 07:09, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 00:05:27 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> >>> The first known human on the island - a cave fossil named 'Cheddar >>> Man' - turned out to be a 'black' African who apparently sailed up >>> the Spanish and finally English coast about 10,000 years ago just >>> as the ice age was starting to thaw. >> >> Depending on the exact timing he may have hiked across Doggerland. > > Well its false anyway, and if coming from Africa Doggerland would not > have been a useful route Exactly why do you think he sailed from Africa? The DNA matches the western European hunter gatherers who had be in Europe as long ago as 17,000 years BP. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2161867-ancient-dark-skinned-briton- cheddar-man-find-may-not-be-true/ The rest of the article is pay walled but if you read other sources there is waffling on the skin color although 'black' generates better headlines. Even Wikipedia is more balanced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_hunter-gatherer#Physical_appearance When you're looking for specific alleles of SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 in ancient DNA there is room for interpretation. https://phys.org/news/2023-08-ancient-ape-trkiye-story-human.html Chris Stringer's Just So stories may become yesterday's news. Wolpoff and Caspari challenged that theory about 30 years ago, partially because Stringer's time line wasn't realistic. Perhaps they will revisit the M haplogroup which has long been an anomaly. The Just So story says L3 left Africa and mutated to M subclades of which are common in Asia, including the Indian subcontinent. Except M1, which is found in North Africa. Did some M people on their way to Japan get homesick and go back to Africa?