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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: RCS is not more private and secure than texting according to the FBI Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 18:19:58 +0100 Lines: 47 Message-ID: <lt2t5tFfd2mU3@mid.individual.net> References: <vjr55k$1cnf1$1@solani.org> <lseg5jF71r1U4@mid.individual.net> <lsqqq2F6dupU3@mid.individual.net> <vk9d00$17ete$1@solani.org> <lsunc0Fpk7mU9@mid.individual.net> <vkdjac$1mop8$1@solani.org> <lsvo9dF4l5U4@mid.individual.net> <gvnq3lxu5g.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net ipwMaCuv4shdthzraqpS/gUxU6cPIc+uRvUytOVaZs85DOV/jK Cancel-Lock: sha1:I+6BxAaOtrN9V5ahWl1BvJkIGtk= sha256:XXqf+j251yYnYji/wNR16u+nX0/7NyuOW3i0EIaxnao= Content-Language: de-DE In-Reply-To: <gvnq3lxu5g.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> Bytes: 2649 Carlos E.R., 2024-12-24 14:02: > On 2024-12-24 13:38, Arno Welzel wrote: >> Jörg Lorenz, 2024-12-24 07:11: >> >>> On 24.12.24 04:16, Arno Welzel wrote: >>>> Jörg Lorenz, 2024-12-22 16:58: >>>> >>>>> On 22.12.24 16:50, s|b wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 00:35:16 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On the other hand - messengers with end-to-end-encryption for iOS and >>>>>>> Android exist. >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://signal.org/> >>>>> >>>>> Signal and Threema: https://threema.ch/en >>>>> >>>>> Threema is the only messenger being accepted for public institutions in >>>>> Switzerland. Particularly for law enforcement, military use and public >>>>> education. >>>> >>>> Of course - Threema is provided by a Swiss company. >>> >>> Idiot. Merry Christmas. >> >> Huh? <https://threema.ch> is not located in Switzerland? Or what do you >> mean? > > That you are implying that the Swiss use Threema simply because it is > Swiss made, not because it is the only one that passed their security > and privacy tests. Well - "Swiss made" also means, they know the requirements for Swiss public institutions better then companies from the US or other countries. And even when companies from other countries provide the same level of security and privacy - still a Swiss company would be preferrable for Swiss public institutions, don't you think so? Signal or Matrix are not worse in this matter - but they are not Swiss companies. Also see: <https://element.io/case-studies/tchap> -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de