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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Date: 1 Jan 2025 23:31:45 GMT Lines: 21 Message-ID: <ltm1j1Fhu4gU1@mid.individual.net> References: <vl1ff6$2c41l$1@dont-email.me> <8bk8njhp31eu4pri07cppsk95sfkcrtr2h@4ax.com> <5W1dP.111423$Uup4.14669@fx10.iad> <4kc9nj56fajv20c6aev6n3cuonnm29iqit@4ax.com> <fs2dP.96724$EYNf.67582@fx11.iad> <cje9njhgqkjdm4bhrvkjkvbttt0b5u6bu3@4ax.com> <vl3dlu$2ov5h$10@dont-email.me> <DybdP.12357$h3%7.10023@fx02.iad> <vl3iv9$2q80t$4@dont-email.me> <%RcdP.212934$DYF8.25570@fx14.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net awhUB11HBfdqztvvVOKXdA+m2uRoOEvTAjSguwgltJcBsUeagG Cancel-Lock: sha1:tRhJH3MYx/GlvA/x/8gp4lmWnYM= sha256:TDC6vKEt9f33YlLNTZkWrFdvTFz94yqHwtZRyc9B75k= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 10:06:35 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > I won't deny the symbiotic relationship between the two, but I don't > believe that it was any kind of conspiracy behind it. Intel was making > the x86 chips, and IBM and Microsoft's software ran on that platform. > While AMD worked for Intel to produce x86 chips and even after they no > longer worked together, Microsoft ran just as well on AMD's x86 chips. > People have always criticized the x86 platform for not being as good a > the RISC variants, but it doesn't mean that there wasn't a need for x86. I agree. IBM chose the 8088 in part because they had experience with the 8085 on the System/23. The rest is history. Intel was late to the mobile party which didn't do MS any favors. An example is the Atom processors. Intel made a lot more money on Core processors and lost interest in the Atom. That killed the cheap Surface line a Surface 3. The Pro series used Core processors and had a higher price. MS muddied the waters with the ARM powered Surface 1 and 2 and RT that left a bad taste. At the moment Intel seems to be imploding as MS sails on.