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From: Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
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Subject: Re: kids these days
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2024 00:01:44 +0100
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On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 14:56:37 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>"Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote in message news:2c80gjt42h2f04f40i1i3n05j2pe4c3jqa@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 20:20:21 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"john larkin" <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote in message news:rb5ufj1pc4uk139u9n0rljvrliqacpllq3@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 03 Oct 2024 23:03:24 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 19:53:49 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:45:37 +0100, Clive Arthur
>>>>>><clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 30/09/2024 19:11, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If they get the DC part about right, I ask them for any other
>>>>>>>> comments. All sorts of things could be mentioned.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With the base looking at 5K, it's unlikley to oscillate. It would be a
>>>>>>>> miracle if any kid even mentioned emitter follower oscillation. Or
>>>>>>>> noise, or tempcos, or anything else.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Along with a colleague, I interviewed someone for a repair technician's
>>>>>>>job a few years back.  Among the questions was a simple common emitter
>>>>>>>single transistor stage which we asked him to explain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>He blew us away.  He knew *far* more detail than either of us.  Turned
>>>>>>>out he was a shit-hot analog designer looking for a less stressful job
>>>>>>>as he wound down to retirement.  He turned out to be brilliant at his
>>>>>>>new job, and mentored a lot of younger people.  He left when the company
>>>>>>>was bought by a large US corporation with the concomitant mind-numbing
>>>>>>>treacle-wading bullshit. [Me too!]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I see the trend, good circuit designers retiring and not being
>>>>>>replaced.
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe not yet, but pretty soon AI will do it better than humans.
>>>>
>>>> Don't see how a simple quesion has enough information to generate a
>>>> complex design.
>>
>> Take a modular approach until such time as the algos improve.
>>
>>>> https://www.flux.ai/
>>>>
>>>> Why do we have garbage like Windows and Outlook if AI is available?
>>
>> I haven't used either for very many years. Linux is *way* better in so
>> many ways.
>
>Outlook was always garbage. I currently set up emclient for anyone who wants an installable client which can handle many different 
>email addresses.
>A Linux version of emclient would be nice but not likely to happen.
>
>I use Windows 10 for daily work but Hyper-V has Windows xp and two debian servers.
>I don't use a Linux desktop, just putty for command line and winscp for file access.
>Just log in as root over SCP and use notepad++ to edit any file on the Linux system.
>I also have linux boxes running proxmox.
>
>>
>>>Because garbage made money and closed source meant no-one else could laugh at the code.
>>
>> Ha! ha! Well said, Edward; spot on!
>>
>>>If Windows is ever rewritten by AI then it's likely to be in a way which does whatever is necessary to make more money.
>>
>> We could get AI to come up with something a little better than just
>> another version of Windows, I'd imagine. ;-)
>
>Depends on who trains it, and what they train it to do, and what they train it to be. 
>

Well, so long as Bill Gates doesn't train it, it'll do just fine.