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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: The Reality Of Microslop Date: 7 Jan 2025 00:35:23 GMT Lines: 44 Message-ID: <lu3b6bFnbqmU1@mid.individual.net> References: <pan$8385a$b4a31c23$e3d5a588$a5df6b7a@linux.rocks> <v6ponjhftu1tvagv14pbv2fptp6kptq47r@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net gHI3mAkPTdSgTO0dS6nufQFeFJdAE+TFfbtelBud/Qh98D6H4j Cancel-Lock: sha1:YnePn1H6kwnHZLOLYHmK1MsYx14= sha256:GOchG+UsmppYqil/DVPXlqC2VpB0IvOAdujmcbNFLBY= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2743 On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 18:20:42 -0500, Joel wrote: > Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote: > >>From the link: >> >>https://tech.slashdot.org/story/25/01/06/1713234/microsoft-would-really- like-you-to-stop-using-windows-10-this-year >> >>"Windows 11 is no longer a stand-alone operating system, Windows 11 is >>an advertising platform that's still stuck with the Windows NT kernel, >>network stack fiddledybits liberally borrowed from BSD (while giving >>absolutely nothing back in return), and a bunch of user space garbage >>they keep changing to try to convince you it's "NEW!". >>(Which is a deception at best, rearranging the deck chairs on the >>Titanic for most, >>and outright lies, damned lies, and forced upgrades at worst.) And the >>TPM2.0 ruse is complete corporate garbage." > > > The Winfanboys will say just keep running Win10, as if it's a solution, > Linux is the only meaningful refuge. https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/06/microsoft_2025_windows_refresh/ Buying a Windows 11 box and reverting it to 10 is a bit extreme. "Canalys analyst Kieren Jessop even told The Register in an earlier interview that it wasn't uncommon for enterprises to "downgrade their newly procured Win11 devices to Win10" because the aging OS was more stable and had greater compatibility with other systems." Other than a couple of Insider builds I haven't had problems will 11. I brought my two work machines up to 24H2 with no drama. Along those lines I upgraded the Fedora box to 41 with no problem after fixing a nagging little quirk. I had installed Fedora on the HDD and moved it to the new SSD. On a reboot it was a crapshoot what I would wind up with. I unplugged the HDD's SATA cable and all was good. One of the stranger features was sometimes having the HDD sda3 mounted as /home, sometimes the SSD sdb3. I do not consider that a Fedora or Linux problem, only a weird hardware problem I created myself.