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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Date: 7 Jan 2025 02:47:56 GMT Lines: 41 Message-ID: <lu3iusFodf6U3@mid.individual.net> References: <vkjmdg$30kff$1@dont-email.me> <lto9qbFso18U3@mid.individual.net> <slrnvnegk1.2cl6d.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <8b262a1f-507f-ef10-e4d3-a981dca5b7d1@example.net> <vl8jdq$3st6d$1@dont-email.me> <vl8jul$3sqfa$4@dont-email.me> <vl8otk$3splv$3@dont-email.me> <vl8qm7$3u6t2$1@dont-email.me> <vl93dl$3vkun$1@dont-email.me> <vl9449$3vo6h$3@dont-email.me> <vl9aov$pp7$1@dont-email.me> <vla4hr$5n4v$1@dont-email.me> <vlblqj$harb$1@dont-email.me> <ca118253-76e4-115a-72c6-5a2059d3d748@example.net> <vlecv0$13phn$3@dont-email.me> <036dd555-4c8b-1d1f-9a82-7f60087bd457@example.net> <aSEeP.276413$aTp4.31279@fx09.iad> <bbe8969c-f60b-4ace-ba43-b260aa6bc44f@example.net> <ANGcnfgs4rkEHeH6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net CmHs7cC3mj/6NQfvJdqW2wvHJ4cbjOZ7AJY5G1I9OEUQodLpmJ Cancel-Lock: sha1:U/hBlaMy95HLk6UJ0MalT3kJ/0g= sha256:xV70RQzIP59mQolglfZRA1dkZPmsVJ9vQHzdR0tkFDk= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 3219 On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 20:17:12 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 1/6/25 5:49 AM, D wrote: >> >> >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> On 2025-01-05, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >>> >>>> We have achienved something no other species has done. Science. >>> >>> Someone once pointed out, though, that for all the great things >>> science can do, it can't make the sun shine brighter or the rivers run >>> faster. If our consumption continues to increase, sooner or later >>> we'll hit the crunch. >> >> We can use things more effectively, we can build nuclear. In terms of >> power we have no problem out all. This is a solved problem and only >> requires political will. > > We ARE very wasteful - even with known-limited resources. There's > mostly not enough money in 're-cycling' to make it worth it (except > in 4th-world countries - oh reports are of a really good > gold-recovery chemistry lately) There are a few recycling projects that do make money and they don't require government intervention. My information is from the '90s but there were two lead acid battery operations in the LA area and it was worth hauling junk batteries from Denver or further. The Kaiser aluminum smelter in Spokane also pulled in crushed aluminum cans from all over the west. The local pulp mill had cardboard hauled in but they shut down. There must still be a market since the company that handles the garbage has a separate dumpster for cardboard. The oddest one was in Rancho Cucamonga. I hauled past the sell date beer from Denver. They distilled it for industrial alcohol. Plastic recycling is problematic as is glass. I've got a suspicion after the people have their feel good moment separating the trash it still winds up in the same landfill.