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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
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Subject: Re: Colnago C60
Date: 8 Jan 2025 00:00:37 GMT
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Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/7/2025 4:46 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:02:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> To tell another anti-AT&T tale: The first time we went to continental
>>> Europe, we (or rather, my wife) had a flip phone through AT&T. I called
>>> AT&T support to ask whether the phone would function in Europe. The tech
>>> support guy I got told me it absolutely would, no problem at all.
>>> 
>>> Of course when we landed, we found the phone was useful only as a
>>> paperweight. IIRC, the phone wasn't even capable of dealing with the
>>> frequencies that Europe used. And when I took it into a cell phone store
>>> of some kind, asking if something could be done to make it work, the
>>> tech guy there said "We've never even seen a phone like this one!"
>>> 
>>> Ah well. We got by for six weeks anyway, mostly by using internet cafes.
>> 
>> Approximately what year was your visit to Europe?  Which countries?
>> Any clue as to the maker and model number of the flip phone?
>> 
>> Europe switched from 2G and 3G to 4G (and now some 5G) protocols,
>> which also included some added bands.  Shutting down the 2G and 3G
>> networks is still work in progress.
>> 
>> "A Complete Overview of 2G & 3G Sunsets"
>> <https://1ot.com/resources/blog/a-complete-overview-of-2g-3g-sunsets>
>> 
>> My guess(tm) is your flip phone was 2G or possibly 3G which is why it
>> didn't work on a 4G network.  However, since this was AT&T, it's
>> possible that the SIM chip that AT&T sold you was misprogrammed,
>> incorrectly activated or just plain defective.
>> 
> 
> If he had a flip phone it likely wasn't GSM compatible, and it was 
> likely before 4G became the standard. I'm guessing it wasn't a 
> programming issue, but basic compataabilty of trying to use a CDMA phone 
> on a GSM network.
> 
> 
That would be my assumption as well, CDMA wasn’t adopted by many countries
as far as I’m aware unlike GSM, which was then a technology much more
European than American.

Roger Merriman