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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Suspension losses
Date: 14 Jan 2025 12:22:39 GMT
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Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 1/13/2025 8:54 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>> On 1/12/2025 2:25 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>> On 1/12/2025 7:49 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>>>> On 1/11/2025 7:46 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> But individual power outputs from left and right legs? I can't 
>>>>> imagine much value from that measurement. 
>>>> 
>>>> You answered your own question. "You" can't imagine it's useful. 
>>>> There are a great many data geeks who find it quite useful.
>>> 
>>> Maybe we can take a poll? How many here gather and use data on their 
>>> individual legs' power output?
>> 
>> I hardly consider this forum to be representative of the cycling 
>> community at alrge.
> 
> I certainly agree with that! This is a group with no members who were 
> not interested in the title "tech".  So if these people are not 
> measuring individual leg power, I doubt it's very common.

It’s also barely into double digits and its age range is slewed to the more
mature, I suspect I’m the youngest here but I’m about mid pack for a club
rider ie late 40’s/early 50’s

I’d also note that due to the age range is a tendency for this effect.

Noted by Douglas Adams “I've come up with a set of rules that describe our
reactions to technologies:
1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary
and is just a natural part of the way the world works.
2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is
new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it.
3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order
of things.”

Ie we become less curious as we age in general.
> 
> Our bike club is mostly social, not very competitive. I do have friends 
> who use "new" equipment (e.g. aero wheels, 13 cogs, road disc brakes) 
> and a few who mention their KOM triumphs. Many of them use Garmin or 
> similar devices. But IIRC none have ever discussed power meter readings. 
> Maybe some new, younger club members are doing that, but I don't ride 
> with those folks.
> 
> Then there's the vast majority of bike riders who will never join a 
> club, never look at a bike magazine, never try to ride fast, who just 
> ride for fun. No power meters there.
> 
They will not be selling power meters be that crank or pedal on the efforts
of club riders or racers, just wouldn’t be commercially viable!

Roger Merriman