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From: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
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Subject: Re: ww3
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 08:56:40 +0100
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Am Dienstag000014, 14.01.2025 um 09:53 schrieb Bertietaylor:
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 7:15:51 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Am Donnerstag000009, 09.01.2025 um 11:01 schrieb Bertietaylor:
>>
>>>>>>>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass
>>>>>> kicked now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
>>>>> with Russia- mostly very miserably.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit, in 1ww Germany beat Russia and forced
>>>> to  a separate peace.
>>>
>>> True but a century earlier they thrashed the French.
>>
>> Napoleon was a shithead from Corsica and has invaded Prussia.
>>
>> The French forced Prussia to participate in the war against Russia, what
>> the Prussians disliked.
>>
>> The scumbag named 'Napoleon' later left the war unharmed, but the
>> Prussians didn't and died there in large numbers.
>>
>>  From Prussian perspective this war had the sole aim to decimate
>> Prussians.
>>
>> As a revenge the Prussians helped the British to destroy Napoleon in
>> Waterloo.
> 
> Russians and Germans were feudal and imperial whereas France was modern
> and egalitarian.
> 
> Napoleon ranks with Alexander, Caesar and Hitler as among the four top
> European leaders, for egalitarianism and modernity.

All of them did essentially the same thing:

they have sent their armies into territories, which were not theirs and 
forced the inhabitants of the occupied regions to fight in their army.

In case of Napoleon this was a disaster for the Prussians, which died in 
large numbers in the Russian winter.

That stupid corsian piece of shit didn't do that, however, but left the 
Prussians there to die together with the French soldiers.

Hitler did almost the same thing.

Hitlers occupation involved more serious crimes however, which were much 
more devastating for the German soldiers.

E.g. Hitler refused to occupy Leningrad.

This was extremely stupid, because Leningrad has a harbor and having a 
harbor there would allow the Wehrmacht to use ships (instead of walking 
through the Russian winter).

To prevent German success, the Nazis had to surround Leningrad and 
starved 1 million Russians to death, which was a very serious crime, too.

But it was also extremely stupid, because with occupation of Leningrad 
the Baltic Sea would have been entirely under German control.

That in turn would allow Navi-ships to move quite safely back and forth 
and that in  turn would have saved millions of lifes.


Also the Stalingrad campaign was extremely stupid and extremely deadly.

It made not sense of any kind to invade that region in the first place.

But especially the city Stalingrad was of no particular interest and the 
campaigned served no obvious purpose (despite wiping out an entire army).

So: Hitler was a piece of shit, too, but for very similar reasons as 
Napoleon.






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