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From: vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
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Subject: Re: Cult of Unix
Date: 16 Jan 2025 16:04:52 GMT
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 10:34:01 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in
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> On Thu, 1/16/2025 12:03 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:05:34 -0600, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> 
>>> I think people are better off to get some type of imaging software ...
>> 
>> On Linux systems, rsync works well. It’s essentially a bulk
>> file-copying utility. That’s all you need to backup/restore Linux
>> systems.
>> 
>> 
> With Macrium, I can back up FAT32, NTFS, ExFAT, and ... EXT4. This means
> when I image a dual-boot disk drive here, it is a *complete* image. I
> can restore it to a brand new hard drive,
> and it boots as if nothing had happened.
> 
> As long as my Linux installs use EXT4 for slash, I'm fine and one
> imaging tool does everything for me.
> 
> The imaging is "smart". in that busy clusters and busy inodes are backed
> up, not white space. If I have 20GB of files on a 1TB EXT4, the backup
> image is a bit bigger than 20GB but not by much. Similarly, if I back up
> 20GB of files on a 1TB NTFS, the output is not much bigger than 20GB.
> And the NTFS and EXT4 can sit in the same MRIMG file,
> there is no segregation involved and separate files for them. It's all
> in a single file.
> 
> Macrium even backs up the 16MB Microsoft Reserved, which has no file
> system. It does that using the equivalent of "dd", but it does not throw
> a wobbly and complain about what it has been asked to do. It puts that
> back on a restore.
> 
> Details and automation, are the key to push-button success.
> 
>    Paul

I'm sure Macrium Reflect is a fine bit of software, but I wonder
about the wisdom of imaging a mounted partition.  I think the only
way to do that safely would be to boot to a USB stick -- that way,
you aren't trying to image mounted filesystems.

It's also not something I can run on Linux.  Timeshift on
Linux Mint uses rsync or btrfs snapshots.  (I'm using ext4,
so I use it with rsync.)

But this discussion did get me to dig into Timeshift's
exclusion list, and have it include the Windows 11 "C:"
image file in backups.  So I have that now, as well
as the backups within the Windows 11 virtual host itself.
Belt and suspenders.

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