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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Montana: "Let's make stupidity mandatory!"
Date: 18 Jan 2025 08:02:18 GMT
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AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> On 1/17/2025 9:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 22:01:41 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 07:47:48 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 13:18:48 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 08:25:45 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/17/2025 5:21 AM, Shadow wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 11:30:14 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:07:10 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 1/16/2025 12:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/16/2025 10:30 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/16/2025 10:00 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion, the reason that humans rose to our place on the food
>>>>>>>>>>>> chain is because of our individualistic need to better ourselves and
>>>>>>>>>>>> our situation.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Your rabid individualism has obviously stunted your education. Don't
>>>>>>>>>>> expect that many will value your totally uneducated opinions.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Interpretation varies.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Mr Tricycle has a point, and a very good one at that.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I suggest a test. Put Mr. Tricycle out in the wilderness all alone. I
>>>>>>>>> predict he won't better himself or his situation. In fact, I predict he
>>>>>>>>> won't survive long.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> OTOH, human beings working cooperatively have built entire civilizations.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Your argument sounds so logical... until one actually work with
>>>>>>>> primitive people, the ones the trike man is talking about. And yes I
>>>>>>>> have worked with this sort of people. In one case we had to call in
>>>>>>>> the Indonesian military to stop a "war" between two villagers over who
>>>>>>>> would keep a worn out plastic tarpaulin. Hardly an example of
>>>>>>>> "cooperatively".
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> By the way, the military solution was to simplify get out of the
>>>>>>>> helicopter and immediately shoot one of the two fighters. Fight over.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What faction were the "military" ? Nazis?
>>>>>>> They murdered a citizen in cold blood and didn't solve the
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And unless that "primitive person" was a baboon, his IQ was
>>>>>>> probably equal to, or even superior to the "military's"***. Not having
>>>>>>> access to a decent education doesn't make you stupid, it makes you
>>>>>>> ignorant.
>>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *** The military are notoriously stupid. Far more stupid than
>>>>>>> the general population.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, their mission was to prevent a war and further
>>>>>> slaughter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sounded more like a scuffle between two men.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best solution? Maybe not, but we were not the
>>>>>> officer in the field that day.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would have given each one half of the tarpaulin. One cuts.
>>>>> the other chooses. And whoever does not agree gets shot in the knee.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Military === Stuuuupid.
>>>>> []'s
>>>> 
>>>> But of course, if you are correct no one in S.America world be
>>>> speaking Spanish or Portuguese, Adolf Hitler's party would rule
>>>> Europe, the U.S. would still be a colony of G.B. and even more
>>>> examples throughout the history of mankind.
>>> 
>>> LOL.
>>> I don't think our "military" had anything to do with our
>>> independence. Our very gay prince had a hysterical fit and hollered he
>>> didn't want to go home, and that was that.
>>> As to Hitler, he was not a party type. He was more of a
>>> military man. AKA Stuuuupid. Invading Russia in winter is not a good
>>> idea....
>> 
>> Operation Barbarossa, the invasion of the Soviet Union by Nazi Germany
>> starting on Sunday, 22 June 1941, during World War II.
>> Is June winter?
>> 
> 
> Napoleon crossed into Russia in mid September. Same result 
> as Stalingrad.
> 
> Winter comes, whether you like it or not.
> 

Indeed I the assumption that Russia would fold and the war would be over by
time winter came around, was foolish.

It did have some help in terms of materials with the convoys but Russia
took on and won the majority of the German army without them the war
outcome probably wouldn’t change but the how and the why and the length
certainly would.

Roger Merriman