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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Most significant advance in bike technology for speed? Date: 4 Feb 2025 12:43:35 GMT Lines: 70 Message-ID: <m0egbnFsfp4U3@mid.individual.net> References: <vn1joj$2gutd$2@dont-email.me> <vn8ue5$189p2$3@dont-email.me> <hv3gpj9djv00laugm2guoun789toku68gu@4ax.com> <vn990o$1blp1$1@dont-email.me> <p7chpj11l2gs521785lr9ggqf2jhgmh4n8@4ax.com> <ovlmpjd4gefae134coomgqug9r3polgir3@4ax.com> <vnipv1$3ib0p$1@dont-email.me> <bq7oP.243375$HO1.192939@fx14.iad> <vnrs3g$1ics3$2@dont-email.me> <vnrsih$1iev4$1@dont-email.me> <vnrtd0$1ics3$3@dont-email.me> <dj93qj9d2mbs8td9bqdc02n7509brfuml1@4ax.com> <vnsp50$1q7ob$1@dont-email.me> <ev04qjpsbo0jjee1hfd6r3r34hfq9q8p3d@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net zmFReSobKdt9xvp5DR0RfwphUZ10OCDOPuRlZEyq5yqzcNM8ER Cancel-Lock: sha1:q2N98BeJcuBVSVyQ7y0ssdWswRQ= sha1:aZZ4NV0xJeQtgWROKzvtw1n3j8Q= sha256:jwdCK2s4PNFfUpLfKp+Vly8oqFF7foB/Spms6UyUIUE= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Bytes: 4147 John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 05:11:44 -0500, zen cycle > <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2/4/2025 12:48 AM, John B. wrote: >>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 21:18:05 -0500, Frank Krygowski >>> <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2/3/2025 9:04 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>> On 2/3/2025 7:55 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>>> On 2/3/2025 12:55 PM, cyclintom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Noone "wins" an argument about opinions. Is that what you think >>>>>>> you're doing by arguing that Catrike shouldn't be carrying a gun >>>>>>> despite a Constitutional Amendment giving him the right to do so? >>>>>>> Your opinion appears to be counter to the Constitution and you >>>>>>> believe that you're winning something? Murder rates tend to be lowest >>>>>>> in areas with the most highly rural populations so zsparate people >>>>>>> and you don't have violent confrontations. Gun laws make little to no >>>>>>> diffrence. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm just pointing out that almost all people who carry guns do so >>>>>> because they are afraid. In nearly all cases, they are afraid of >>>>>> things that never happen. That's phobia. >>>>>> >>>>>> And I'm aware I'm violating my resolution to stop responding to, um, a >>>>>> certain type of person. I'll try to do better. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I post enough current successful defensive use videos to show that risks >>>>> are real (although situationally more or less) and that preparation and >>>>> training may well be dispositive /in extremis/. >>>>> >>>>> Fear? OK, perhaps. Rational risk assessment is another equally valid term. >>>> >>>> Or is it irrational risk assessment? Hey, let's see what the NRA says! >>>> >>>> https://www.mediamatters.org/national-rifle-association/nra-commentary-admits-odds-needing-gun-defend-yourself-are-infinitesimal >>> >>> Wet another Tommy Trick... changing the subject. >>> >>> Or does your latest post explain fear and loathing among those who >>> elect to carrying a gun - a perfectly legal act in most? <many)? >>> States today. >> >> FFS... >> Andrew mentioned he posted numerous examples of guns being used for self >> defense, Frank responded by posting a link showing the odds for needing >> a gun for self defense are "infinitesimal". >> >> It wasn't a change of subject, asshat. > > > Well, the discussion was centered on Frank's statement that people > that carried a gun are cowards > "I'm just pointing out that almost all people who carry guns do so > because they are afraid" > > and suddenly he changes the subject to "infinitesimal". > > That's not a change of subject? Perhaps think about it, rather than just Frank must be wrong so I take the opposite view? It’s more than a little boring and doesn’t paint oneself in a good light! Roger Merriman