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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Date: 10 Feb 2025 19:27:47 GMT Lines: 26 Message-ID: <m0v29iFjfdvU3@mid.individual.net> References: <vkjmdg$30kff$1@dont-email.me> <vl8jdq$3st6d$1@dont-email.me> <vl8jul$3sqfa$4@dont-email.me> <vl8otk$3splv$3@dont-email.me> <vl8qm7$3u6t2$1@dont-email.me> <vl93dl$3vkun$1@dont-email.me> <vl9449$3vo6h$3@dont-email.me> <vl9aov$pp7$1@dont-email.me> <vla4hr$5n4v$1@dont-email.me> <vlblqj$harb$1@dont-email.me> <lttopaFoh2cU8@mid.individual.net> <vle8uk$12sii$2@dont-email.me> <c686fb74-4fac-0809-7005-417c76ee0e3b@example.net> <nbReP.633803$oR74.271654@fx16.iad> <NnVeP.44028$vfee.11890@fx45.iad> <vo6ubb$3ue2q$2@dont-email.me> <RhOdnY5Kb8vulDr6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vo7lp6$25uo$2@dont-email.me> <655acbf6-05e5-69ff-8a44-9f7075aafa2e@example.net> <ddNpP.567620$iNI.244105@fx14.iad> <vo8b9o$69pr$3@dont-email.me> <DMWdneQKF52dtzX6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com> <90d96981-698c-2175-9055-346f91e9fe8d@example.net> <8Xednfe-7ZccxzT6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com> <m0toenFd99oU1@mid.individual.net> <614937ad-b812-3130-bd86-49827e750e1e@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net +HSBHZNKQc3c3oFFoYFLxAQZ9yALF4L9+gIkZTEATHJm5qC7UY Cancel-Lock: sha1:9XjorLurkTPa0ajy6PxIICZ/7Fo= sha256:073PrxX+qJgKMgA6AbxV486zBgHr+QCJF6fL9X78g1A= User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Bytes: 3007 On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 12:08:00 +0100, D wrote: > It turned out that Azure had done something weird when emulating NIC:s > inside their VM:s, which broke the clustering of the SAP environment > when moved from on prem to the cloud. Back before multicore processors I would have to remind people that no matter how sophisticated the OS was you had one CPU executing one instruction at a time. Then came VMs, with the stress on 'virtual'. When you get down to bare metal if you have one NIC there's a whole lot of juggling going on. Back in the day we had a fairly sophisticated technique to mirror the live system on a physically remote backup system. As bare metal systems were replaced by VMs I had a hard time persuading our support people that their time honored setup wasn't too useful when the live system and backup system were VMs running on the same hardware. It's conceivable a VM could crash and the switchover would work but if a rat chews through the power cable they're all going down. We also ran into problems with the specs on a HA system. Short story, if you want to mirror you'd better have a big pipe. Like most of life a high level abstraction is fine but you need to step back every now and then and look at physical reality since there ain't no other reality.