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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Date: 11 Feb 2025 03:42:40 GMT Lines: 18 Message-ID: <m0vv9fFo5foU3@mid.individual.net> References: <vkjmdg$30kff$1@dont-email.me> <vl8otk$3splv$3@dont-email.me> <vl8qm7$3u6t2$1@dont-email.me> <vl93dl$3vkun$1@dont-email.me> <vl9449$3vo6h$3@dont-email.me> <vl9aov$pp7$1@dont-email.me> <vla4hr$5n4v$1@dont-email.me> <vlblqj$harb$1@dont-email.me> <lttopaFoh2cU8@mid.individual.net> <vle8uk$12sii$2@dont-email.me> <c686fb74-4fac-0809-7005-417c76ee0e3b@example.net> <nbReP.633803$oR74.271654@fx16.iad> <NnVeP.44028$vfee.11890@fx45.iad> <vo6ubb$3ue2q$2@dont-email.me> <RhOdnY5Kb8vulDr6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vo7lp6$25uo$2@dont-email.me> <655acbf6-05e5-69ff-8a44-9f7075aafa2e@example.net> <ddNpP.567620$iNI.244105@fx14.iad> <m0pqs3ForauU2@mid.individual.net> <vob3ps$q903$7@dont-email.me> <9f3323c0-5035-1172-e0d9-13ab2544b321@example.net> <m0too7Fd99oU2@mid.individual.net> <_4mcnYIMzv0paDT6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <m0v5aeFjfdvU6@mid.individual.net> <dc861cae-cdf6-893b-940a-1d537ddce706@example.net> <9Vudndwpf_KGPDf6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net DpsMcFT3cO9Or/HQ3/E0xwD2UYb8r9tnmLQXv7JsR61BK8jnFL Cancel-Lock: sha1:a5VaLgl5JR+KCqg2N5SrQoq/YP0= sha256:ZrCMVPlox2ueIBxBukMtSskDqO5+AIp+1QCzQMZan1w= User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Bytes: 2594 On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:00:10 -0500, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: > I've always been impressed with things like baby cows and horses and > even elephants. They pop out and within an hour are trotting around > and acting all appropriate. Where did human ancestors go wrong ??? > Elephants are smart large-brained critters too - not like 'born > ready' > is limited to pinheaded things. NNs should aim at being E-lephants > when you press the "ON" button, with a lot of How To and How To Do > Better already burned in there. That was one of the historic battles. The department head was an old school behaviorist so that set the tone. Chomsky though there was some sort of linguistic framework wired into the brain that was fleshed out by experience. Skinner thought it was all learned behavior. Phylogeny versus ontogeny with culture thrown in on the side. It can be a minefield.