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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Gyroscopes and Relativity Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2025 12:05:31 +0800 Lines: 94 Message-ID: <m1ai4bFffcqU1@mid.individual.net> References: <vo28ee$2ukki$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net S2F3DMtBFUcDO+ARMSFePAUg/TR69xvmuA5SnoDWN67jWcxS50 Cancel-Lock: sha1:sZqAMmsWFHBqFKcOfs5Pcqo6Wb4= sha256:3BRG1WkiIBw6bGcC249XSzT/BkV81eJ0Jo2eCFRgkiY= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vo28ee$2ukki$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 5718 On 06-Feb-25 8:03 pm, Corey White wrote: > Gyroscopes and Relativity > > Gyroscopes are well-known for their ability to maintain stability and > resist > changes in orientation. Their behavior is governed by precession, a > principle that describes how a spinning object responds to external forces. > However, beyond the classical explanations of angular momentum and torque, > there may be a deeper connection to relativity and time dilation. By > examining how rotational motion interacts with the fabric of spacetime, we > can explore the possibility that gyroscopes experience a form of > gravitational resistance due to relativistic effects. > > Precession: Why a Gyroscope Falls in a Spiral Path > > If you drop a spinning gyroscope alongside a regular object, the gyroscope > will not simply fall straight down. Instead, it follows a spiral path, > hitting the ground slightly after the other object. This delay is > traditionally explained by precession, where a force applied to a spinning > object causes its motion to shift perpendicular to the applied force rather > than directly in the expected direction. > > Precession occurs because of angular momentum. When gravity pulls down on a > spinning gyroscope, it does not simply fall; instead, the force causes the > direction of its spin to shift. This results in a spiraling motion rather > than a direct descent. But there may be another explanation—one that > involves the effects of relativity on rotational motion. > > Time Dilation in a Rotating Wheel > > To test this idea, imagine a heavy wheel mounted on an axle, spinning > rapidly in a vertical plane. If you rotate the axle in a horizontal plane > while the wheel is still spinning, the wheel will either float upward or > sink downward, depending on the direction of rotation. > > From the perspective of the Earth, the spinning wheel is moving on a > verical > plane. When the axle is rotated horizontally, the wheel’s motion expands > into additional directions, creating a more complex spiraling path. This > extended path means that the wheel moves a greater distance in the same > amount of time. > > According to the principles of relativity, when an object moves through > space in a longer path while maintaining the same time frame, time dilation > occurs. In other words, time slows down within the rotating system compared > to its surroundings. If this effect is strong enough, it could cause the > gyroscope to experience a slower descent relative to the Earth, creating an > apparent "anti-gravity" effect. > > No Limit to Rotational Speed > > One of the most intriguing aspects of this theory is that rotation is not > limited by the speed of light. Unlike linear motion, where an object’s > velocity cannot exceed the speed of light, a wheel can theoretically spin a > million number of times per second without violating relativity. > > Before the axle is rotated, every point on the spinning wheel is moving up > and down, left and right, within its original vertical plane. But when the > wheel's axis is rotated, those same points begin moving in new directions, > altering the motion of the system as a whole. This change in direction > creates a spiral trajectory that increases the total distance traveled by > the wheel's components in a given time frame. > > Because the wheel’s rotation is not constrained by the speed of light, it > can reach extreme rotational speeds without changing its relative position > to the Earth. As a result, the wheel’s movement interacts with spacetime > differently than a typical falling object. This could explain why the > gyroscope seems to resist gravity momentarily before stabilizing. > > Why the Effect Stops in a Horizontal Plane > > If time dilation is responsible for this behavior, then the anti-gravity > effect should disappear once the wheel reaches a purely horizontal > orientation. At this point, all of its motion is confined to a single > plane, meaning there is no additional change in direction to extend the > path further. Without a continuously increasing trajectory, the conditions > for time dilation weaken, and the wheel behaves normally once again. > > This suggests that the relationship between rotation, precession, and time > dilation is not constant but dependent on the complexity of the wheel’s > motion. When a spinning object undergoes a continuous change in direction > across multiple planes, its interaction with gravity may be fundamentally > different than previously thought. > > Watch it here: > > https://youtu.be/GeyDf4ooPdo?si=qrxh4EmBG1IhxzkD > You do realise that there's no point in posting click bait on Usenet? There's no algorithm to game, and no advertising revenue to get. Sylvia.