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Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Smith <null@void.com> Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking Subject: Re: Outdoor Welding Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2025 08:17:33 +0100 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Message-ID: <m1jz4hhlyq.fsf@void.com> References: <102nele$14o2m$1@dont-email.me> <103cf65$1gkqk$1@dont-email.me> <103cjln$1hq48$1@dont-email.me> <103f1mm$283e1$1@dont-email.me> <6pgp5kdc7vpmqd19gtehhfsk77rrsh4obl@4ax.com> <103jf7i$3fabe$1@dont-email.me> <103jhlv$3fqqb$1@dont-email.me> <103kkic$3nnjj$1@dont-email.me> <103kqqs$3oqjv$1@dont-email.me> <103mfvg$87c2$1@dont-email.me> <103mhec$8lve$1@dont-email.me> <103pkof$12a0h$1@dont-email.me> <103pmac$134dt$1@dont-email.me> <103pnru$13bue$1@dont-email.me> <103r4gj$1fm4i$1@dont-email.me> <m1qzyzowar.fsf@void.com> <1043b3k$3hded$1@dont-email.me> <104615a$6g6t$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="85025"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:RJ9NC7IllZ9oA1W8lRoNC1N7QbU= sha1:m+WFeTeEldzx4yMZfN9WOm5fOBs= sha256:5Ji4FQoYv5W12l7Z2adLRx9/d/nx9TW0+d0nnmYT+qY= sha1:kCyNocXYQjSFhvWPNrKsW6CKnfc= sha256:U7N9spRLegItWLQGuoKvRbvWGRztxuhG+eEz6YrtF+4= "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes: > "Jim Wilkins" wrote in message news:1043b3k$3hded$1@dont-email.me... > > I'm having trouble analyzing to learn from this. What is the load direction > on the inner ring that your weld must resist? > --------------------------------- > > More specifically I assume that if the inner ring bears weight the > upper weld could fail in tension (+shear?) across its throat area. The > lower weld might shear along the column so punch press math could > apply, or to the extent the fit is loose or the column can expand and > the ring shrink the shear could be along a shorter line angled toward > the weld throat. Does that make sense? > > If the load is a mooring line I'd have to know how it's attached. > > I have similar geometry in two recent projects, one a shop-made > stainless solar array thrust bearing with the ring retained in the > tube by a circle of screws, their inner ends turned smooth and loosely > fitting in a groove in the ring. The load on the cap passes through > the races and balls to the ring below, so the outer tube is only > shielding. > > The other is a thick sleeve with an integral ring inside threaded > internally. It adapts this to a non-HF floor jack. > https://www.harborfreight.com/steel-floor-jack-cross-beam-64051.html Per previous - leave-alone this line of thought. It will be designed for "special" load-conditions.