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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.endofthelinebbs.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Smith <null@void.com> Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking Subject: Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 21:01:27 +0000 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Message-ID: <m1msh2szmg.fsf@void.com> References: <m1froyjvq9.fsf@void.com> <vek08q$1bcvd$1@dont-email.me> <m1cyk2oxya.fsf@void.com> <m1a5d7bsh1.fsf@void.com> <vj1l2g$34duq$1@dont-email.me> <m1jzc6u3ox.fsf@void.com> <vjbvt3$1hhn5$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="44110"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Hfpwzi023hF6LMORJ7hR6obWrKI= sha1:0umRzPZ2zx5g2kUjPzbQ10araOA= sha256:iMiXgwxcBMmA5S/emKdOZ/3uTDkTJkrZdzW6rVDwepk= sha1:1byaTfGhJisZJd/oM0IkpTsDdYI= sha256:LSWx1pGjFDk4k3z4l0kIUSD+UQVdLHYsa7RgY/RQzpg= Bytes: 2777 Lines: 38 "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes: > "Richard Smith" wrote in message news:m1jzc6u3ox.fsf@void.com... > > "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes: > >> Bending / welding allowances > > You are well ahead of me. i doubt i can help. > > Press-brake - they have a press-brake, yes - good. > Not new when bought. Is small "fabco.". > Seeing if corrections / calibrations needed to go in to the settings, > I think. > > -------------------- > > Bending allowance can be determined by bending a small test coupon and > measuring the resulting lengths. I've seen welders hammer the cooling > beads but my night school training didn't cover that aspect, it seemed > to be done by experience and judgment instead of pre-planning. > > A practical example is welding a repair in a curved fender. A patch > dished to copy the existing fender shape will flatten from weld > shrinkage. If there's space behind, like on my pickup truck bed, I can > restore the curve with a hammer and dolly, but the integral steel > inner wheel well on the car blocks access for a dolly so if it had > antique value I'd need to preform the patch 'somewhat' deeper to > compensate, or build it up with filler. > jsw Lot of experience there. Funnily enough, was helping the boss on the press-brake today. Ran out of folded plate pressings and no other work, so did a run. The boss had me involved in his (our) measurements - getting the pressings from "nearly" to matches drawing dimensions and angles. Got some idea of the adjustable variables and what error can manifest as on pressings.