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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Machine Shop Date: 22 Feb 2025 22:27:53 GMT Lines: 48 Message-ID: <m1v1b9FjnruU1@mid.individual.net> References: <7ok9ejlu4st9250r9vacvtrdooh04r7hsj@4ax.com> <o81eej5nccc7t44tanfusdjhpnas3a6hjb@4ax.com> <IlHFO.77208$1m96.61123@fx15.iad> <vc7gsb$2brsl$3@dont-email.me> <FwYFO.93926$v8v2.91066@fx18.iad> <i5vgej9tm9fu3oosoukjjqovmqb4rp0onj@4ax.com> <Op1GO.23868$6a33.16569@fx33.iad> <vcanav$35vab$2@dont-email.me> <vd29u9$3sdmh$2@dont-email.me> <vd3pnp$71lk$2@dont-email.me> <jLrXO.537817$WOde.88257@fx09.iad> <vglmot$3ada9$4@dont-email.me> <35quP.22763$Pvy8.13238@fx38.iad> <ribkrjl10neqjuf7kmm814cicu4tel7bf7@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net AJkogIVV57HSiWH7zzCjtw+kkwQZ48HD6aunLRiA5ARiLuCxSL Cancel-Lock: sha1:nlIRJSR+0qCtnhxhaMMz/lBZmrE= sha1:cH5xP8e+B/Tqf9t0NXjcV0xIqGA= sha256:NNSiVYAjOFbJAURZthvotc1xZBVTWBuI3bMlkHrbZLI= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Bytes: 3433 Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote: > On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 20:04:15 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> On Fri Nov 8 13:54:21 2024 Zen Cycle wrote: >>> On 11/8/2024 12:20 PM, cyclintom wrote: >>>> >>>> No company could survive you and a boss that spots you not working and >>>> does say anything about it. >>> >>> Who ever said my boss caught me not working? > >> You did asshole - you said that you were watching baseball and your boss >> came around and asked what the score was - not that he asked why you >> weren't working. I never worked one job where a boss didn't demand full >> attention to your job. > > Having the boss monitor you with a stopwatch is characteristic of a > job where you are paid by the millisecond. That sometimes works with > hourly employees. However, it doesn't apply to salaried professional > or exempt employees who are more commonly paid by the job and not by > the millisecond: > <https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/exempt-employee.asp> > If you "never worked one job where a boss didn't demand full > attention", you were likely NOT receiving a salary and working as an > exempt employee, professional, manager, executive, or consultant. > > I also find it odd the you wrote "a boss" instead of "my boss" or "my > manager". Hourly employees might have one of more managers. Salaried > professionals usually have a single manager, even if you worked for a > committee. > > At one company, the chief engineer would walk around the lab and > remark "am I paying you for this" if he saw anyone doing something he > considered not job related. Eventually, he was asked by the other > managers to stop doing that because it was highly disruptive and > usually resulted in work coming to a screeching halt. > > Even paid hourly if one is competent and job is complex might well be down times waiting for something or someone to start/finish and so would have flexibility aka time to and opportunity to do personal things or simply have tea break/chat or whatever. Only be stopwatches etc on fairly menial repetitive jobs. Roger Merriman