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Subject: Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing
Date: 3 Mar 2025 04:29:43 GMT
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On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 21:19:10 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

> What I can say for sure is that while an Ubuntu 14.04 user will
> immediately be familiar with 24.04 if he jumps from one to the other, he
> might find it faster or discover that it has prettier icons. Otherwise,
> the applications he used in 14.04 will look and operate the same in the
> new version, the interface will be the same, and the commands will not
> have changed. He probably won't notice that his applications are now
> Snaps or notice that pipewire is now the default instead of PulseAudio.

I certainly noticed when an update broke my sound output leaving only 
Dummy to select. After screwing around for a couple of days I got 
Bluetooth speakers since it could handle that.

Note: Fedora uses pipewire and when I plugged the speakers into the Fedora 
box they were recognized and worked fine. I lay this one on Ubuntu.

snap rears its ugly head when it can't update a running program, even if 
doing a full upgrade from 22.04 to 4.04 to 24.10.

You pick of ranges is not very good. The Unity desktop was introduced as 
the default in 11.04, and replaced with GNOME 3 in 17.10. Whether your 
14.04 user is a happy camper with 24.04 depends. 

Stuff like that gets noticed. Transitions like from X to Wayland might go 
unnoticed unless it breaks stuff initially.  systemd probably unnoticed 
except by those who hate it. UEFI was a major pain in the ass for a 
while. 

gcc updates may or may not be noticed. It never was a good idea but some 
of our legacy code defined variables in the header files. I forget if it 
was gcc 11 or 12 that considered that a multiple redefinition and a 
showstopper unless you used a flag to the compiler. Then there was the 
notorious RedHat gcc 2.98 that couldn't compile the kernel. You can bet 
your bippy that got noticed.