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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: 4 Mar 2025 22:29:30 GMT Lines: 57 Message-ID: <m2pd6aFd9r2U3@mid.individual.net> References: <1smdnSjX3YoxgWf7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <llv30aFa6uvU3@mid.individual.net> <vde4b8$268qv$22@dont-email.me> <1396870532.749421730.052473.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <wrapper-20241001111737@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <vpl5uk$hhk$3@reader1.panix.com> <c4acndn4jJXKwCP6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <1214951717.762291306.657281.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <m2a04pF90mqU2@mid.individual.net> <vppj5n$33b82$4@dont-email.me> <m2clmbFl430U10@mid.individual.net> <m2dp4gF577vU2@mid.individual.net> <TeucnZgT9qpy_F_6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <vpujqm$5g9r$2@dont-email.me> <V82cnbblIbFrdF76nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <m2ld72Fhq3U1@mid.individual.net> <vq4hik$1bvqe$4@dont-email.me> <m2mdm6F5c4eU2@mid.individual.net> <9mydncI_3OCA81v6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <m2nn2vFap9pU3@mid.individual.net> <TROdnZZbBqnIK1v6nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> <125045676.762805906.017618.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net yFe39ABFOBcTKCs9Rzf+SgYeNKcNRnvICcpfgGuLQwnKDY+5wO Cancel-Lock: sha1:aWGKPUPBO2g1pfsbiOY8vV5J0EQ= sha256:LADSDPGauYXXJx7XEnOSfAvPkE4FLYN2Dp0pQ9NV1JQ= User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) Bytes: 3907 On Tue, 04 Mar 2025 11:44:29 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: > c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >> On 3/4/25 2:06 AM, rbowman wrote: >>> On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 22:06:07 -0500, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/3/25 2:19 PM, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 15:24:04 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 03/03/2025 10:05, Niklas Karlsson wrote: >>>>>>> Some would probably get on your case for being profligate with >>>>>>> vertical space... but honestly, it doesn't much matter with the >>>>>>> kind of screen real estate we have these days. I do agree that >>>>>>> your style has readability benefits. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes. Back in the day when I debugged with 80 column dot matrix >>>>>> printouts, it got messy. >>>>>> To day with collapsible blocks on a gui it's a lot easier >>>>> >>>>> I still prefer statements that don't exceed 80 columns. >>>> >>>> Wise. Not only doesn't fit a standard terminal but it's harder to get >>>> the gist if the line runs off the screen. Run into this editing with >>>> nano kinda often alas. >>> >>> It's for Python but I agree with most of PEP 8. Black or ruff do a >>> nice job of reformatting .py files if I get sloppy. >>> >>> I use nano very rarely. One of the first things I do on any machine is >>> install Vim, preferable gVim. I rarely use the menus or graphic >>> features of gVim but I like not losing the terminal. >> >> >> I use nano all the damned time - 'C' or Python or Bash. >> Wrote an (ASM) screen editor much like it for the orig IBM-PC since I >> just despised EDLIN. >> >> I *delete*/rename the Linux line editors so they can't accidentally >> pop up. Really. >> >> Some of the simple GUI editors are perfectly good now, but I still >> find myself in terminal, with nano, a lot of the time. Some of my >> boxes are SSH Only ... >> >> > I like nedit. It’s the closest I can find to mainframe editors. When I > get a round tuit I’d like to code a Rexx interface for it. I use REXX a lot - on FreeBSD. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org