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Subject: Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing
Date: 9 Mar 2025 20:41:00 GMT
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On 09 Mar 2025 15:18:37 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> And that's an improvement unnoticed by those who can't find anything if
> it doesn't shine. The last upgrade process to ubuntu 24.04 was a major
> improvement. With the older upgrades, it always broke something. And if
> you stopped upgrading it in the middle, your only choice was to install
> ubuntu again. And now, it's the first time I saw people stopped in the
> middle because they didn't understood the questions or it took too long
> which it was easy to fix. Just start again the install and everything
> runs fine. Which was unthinkable with previous upgrades. It's a major
> improvement unknown to the end user which still benefits him. So saying
> it doesn't happened because one didn't understood it is just showing
> evidence of strong opinion based on lack of knowledge.

Most of the problems I've hit with Ubuntu upgrades are related to snap. 
For example when flatpak updates Brave the new version is seen when brave 
is restarted.  With snap, the update fails with a running app so you have 
to kill it and manually do the snap refresh. 

20.04 to 22.04 managed to hose my postgres installation completely. 

With Ubuntu there seems to always be something that requires manual 
intervention where Fedora goes more smoothly.