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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: bike path news
Date: 11 Mar 2025 15:59:33 GMT
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Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
> On 11 Mar 2025 10:58:45 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
> 
>> John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 11 Mar 2025 10:23:20 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 3/10/2025 6:21 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/10/2025 2:38 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> People form their own opinions and arrange their own 
>>>>>>> behavior based on their own situation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes - or based on their own phobias. I know people who are 
>>>>>> horribly afraid of spiders, garter snakes, honeybees, 
>>>>>> graveyards and more.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Smart? No. Logical? No. But at least they're not carrying 
>>>>>> lethal weaponry.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My daughter for example used to take the train to work in 
>>>>>>> inclement or bitter cold Chicago winters.
>>>>>>> No longer. ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You're the anecdote master, Andrew. But IIRC you've not yet 
>>>>>> found a horrifying anecdote about quiet bike paths in 
>>>>>> suburban Florida, near our timid tricycle rider.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The murder of this thread was of an unarmed man on a bike path.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Just because it can happen doesn?t mean it will happen, going out on limb
>>>> but I suspect that CatTrike Ryder will be perfectly safe with or without
>>>> carrying any guns on his rides.
>>>> 
>>>> I suspect he knows this as well, but simply likes having the gun on him?
>>>> 
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>> 
>>> I spent more then a year in Vietnam where people did, on occasion,
>>> shoot at you and I can assure you that a firearm did give you a
>>> certain sense of security :-)
>>> 
>>> Even when they weren't shooting :-)
>> 
>> I’m assuming this was the Vietnam war or similar which is a kinda difficult
>> risk case to put it mildly!
>> 
>> And yes there are places where having a gun on you seems a wise decision,
>> riding your bike even in America doesn’t seems likely hence the absence of
>> bike specific kit to do so.
>> 
>> Roger Merriman
> 
> So far, nobody has offered any valid evidence as to why I shouldn't
> carry a gun on my bike rides other than that they don't approve of it.

That’s the individual want vs social gain, though I’m more cynical than
Frank that reducing guns will solve the problem completely ie I think it’s
probably somewhat simplistic and some of it would seem to be cultural which
would require more than just lack of access.
> 
> As for kit, there are many pieces of gear with which to do it. I chose
> to make my own.

Seem to remember from last time you can get Amazon and similar stuff, but
seems to be notable by its absence with companies that make all sorts of
bike accessories.

Or various bike media which if Gravel is heavily US based and bear spray
and so on do come up, gun holsters etc don’t

I’m unconvinced it’s common possible more so with folks in civies just
popping to shop if they are the sort of folks that carry guns, but folks
going for a MTB/Gravel/road ride doesn’t appear to be a thing, and folks
make videos about all sorts of stuff.
> 
> -
> C'est bon
> Soloman
> 
Roger Merriman