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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
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Subject: Re: Dead Vermont cyclist
Date: 14 Mar 2025 21:46:26 GMT
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Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:02:31 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/14/2025 2:30 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>> On 3/14/2025 1:25 PM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 11:44:15 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nope, I'm not sympathetic. What rule could be more 
>>>>>> fundamental than
>>>>>> "Don't hit someone walking (or bicycling) with your car"?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And if killing someone with your car isn't sufficient 
>>>>>> for forbidding
>>>>>> future driving, what would be?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is the permission to drive really more important than a 
>>>>>> person's life?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Isn't there a law against riding your bicycle in the path 
>>>>> of a moving
>>>>> car?
>>> 
>>> no, dumbass.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> The actual situation on the ground can be wildly different 
>> depending on the statute, local road design, marking, 
>> signage and practice, the personalities involved and 
>> whatever the judge ate for lunch.
>> 
>> http://flbikelaw.org/2010/03/two-citations-identical-circumstances-opposite-verdicts/
> 
> I'm pretty sure that if I ride the Catrike out onto the road in front
> of a moving truck, my estate would be liable for his broken headlight.
> 
> --
> C'est bon
> Soloman
> 

Even so unlikely to be illegal, might be found wholly at fault at a inquest
and investigation but doubt even America has bothered, to make that into
the law, after all in some busy roads junctions it’s common for drivers to
pull out knowing that the oncoming traffic will need to slow, or brake to
avoid collisions even if just a bit.

Roger Merriman