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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
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Subject: Re: wingnuts
Date: 17 Mar 2025 16:29:31 GMT
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Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
> On 17 Mar 2025 15:30:36 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
> 
>> Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>> Written by Mentor WilliamsOn 17 Mar 2025 13:55:53 GMT, Roger Merriman
>>>> <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 17 Mar 2025 12:07:03 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> While shopping, noticed someone?s ?pub? bike was a rather old road bike
>>>>>> with wing nuts and quite ornate as well, and a 5 speed block.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Guessing more to the 1950?s era than 1970?s? Looked dirty and well used but
>>>>>> probably was an expensive bike when new?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Seems that the pace of change was slower then? Mind you I bought a 9 speed
>>>>>> bike last year which first came to market last century?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I notice that Catrike has upgraded their new trikes to 3X10. That
>>>>> makes no sense to me. My 3X9 has more combinations than I need or use.
>>>>> I briefly considered going to a 2X10 when upgrading my cranks, but
>>>>> didn't see any advantage.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>> Soloman
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Get less gaps between cogs which some people really mind others don?t, with
>>>> my MTB background I?m stereotypically more concerned with the range than
>>>> the gaps.
>>>> 
>>>> 10 speed stuff is same price and gives more upgrades options ie
>>>> compatibility with GRX or So on.
>>>> 
>>>> I found the Triple on the 7s CX/Gravel bike I had, really quite annoying ie
>>>> lot of shifting though the chainrings, likewise the old Commute MTB which
>>>> was 3/9s was fine in its intended use ie used as MTB as one tended to drop
>>>> into the granny ring for climbs, and middle for rolling terrain and big
>>>> ring for the downs, but on the commute which is flat as, it did get tedious
>>>> ie either rub the front mech or shift up/down a chainring and then also
>>>> shift up/down on the cassette to maybe do this shortly again!
>>>> 
>>>> It?s much happier as a 1by the absolute range isn?t really important for
>>>> the commute as heavy as the bike can be, the only hill is a flyover!
>>>> 
>>>> Though has moved from 9s to 10speed and to Cues which has given a bit wider
>>>> range, and seems generally fuss free.
>>>> 
>>>> I?d of thought that a Triple on the CatTrike where you ride on the trails
>>>> would be overkill but then again if it doesn?t annoy then meh.
>>>> 
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>> 
>>> I used to ride almost entirely on the 53 tooth, but lately, I've
>>> slowed down and moved to the middle 44 tooth, which before I only used
>>> on the hilly sections of my ride...   
>>> 
>>> Yes, there are hills where I sometimes ride, which sometimes required
>>> using the 30T
>>> 
>>> When I slowed down and moved to the 44T, my cranking speed increased.
>>> My legs do not like 80/85 RPM, but I prefer the 44T to keep on larger
>>> cogs at the rear and for starting across a highway and where I want to
>>> move across quickly without shifting the front. I have several road
>>> crossings on banked curves so I must start up on a grade.
>>> 
>>> That was on the 165 mm cranks. My new 175 mm cranks are set up with
>>> 50-38-26 and I expect to be on the 50T most of my rides. If that
>>> proves to be wrong, I'll take all three of them off and put them on
>>> the old 165mm cranks, which I think is better suited to me with the
>>> smaller rings. Those old rings have a lot of miles on them, so I'll
>>> probably retire them and buy another set. 
>>> 
>>> I'm curious to see how the difference work out and I might change them
>>> back and forth a few times...
>>> 
>>> I enjoy experimenting and I enjoy doing the work. Lately I've been
>>> having back trouble which interferes with that work and puts me to
>>> working on my books. Limiting my bike work to a couple of 1 or 1.5
>>> hour sessions seems to work for the time being. 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> C'est bon
>>> Soloman
>>> 
>> 
>> One advantage if you did ever go 10s is can get a 36t cassette vs 34t which
>> means there is fair old range within each chain ring, my Gravel bike has
>> 30/46 chainset which will certainly flatten most road climbs.
>> 
>> Obviously if one goes 11/12speed etc can get even bigger ranges from the
>> cassette though quite a bit more expensive!
>> 
>> Roger Merriman
> 
> I have an 11-36 9 spd cassette. 
> 
> --
> C'est bon
> Soloman
> 

Ah apparently so, I believe that Sora, which was the original groupset on
the Gravel bike the rear mech and and Tiagra wasn’t rated to handle 11-36
but 11-34 though Shimano are apparently notoriously cautious!

It has a GRX which is rated plus has Clutch which makes life rather
quieter!

Roger Merriman