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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Job Offer Date: 20 Mar 2025 00:13:54 GMT Lines: 216 Message-ID: <m414u2FiphpU1@mid.individual.net> References: <k51ltj5kgf0j5m6av7g68oku9hdcg368ut@4ax.com> <992ltj5eo4mqs6af1h1tlpf23p4cs8ia4h@4ax.com> <8bsltj9vtgcl6hat19jtv5jc1qgo6m0ob5@4ax.com> <4jamtjtbo7us6rf930lgn77f7cp521gl96@4ax.com> <vrfa00$1kurf$1@dont-email.me> <c0cmtjdoudci2j2sn05htvb206jimlv60o@4ax.com> <vrfbl3$1kurf$2@dont-email.me> <kkcmtjha2hf8e4abi3i2cq6a6tt2m12mt2@4ax.com> <vrfc74$1kure$1@dont-email.me> <vrfc8t$1kurf$3@dont-email.me> <ardmtjpl6lphbb6vi1inhnsen4hf1r48r7@4ax.com> <vrfec5$1kure$2@dont-email.me> <6mfmtjdn3iv43u0jvvgv4pq0url2f2tfd9@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net MB4HLOpbjXp3P/NLo9BBdgu8FzVy1pzQnYwfyWDc3rmw94ku5J Cancel-Lock: sha1:tjgB94LOeK+4Uaz5fHy/jgnuTk4= sha1:0n3LgvbCbNer0KvW6hr1zDJTBm0= sha256:m7L1rMO1xzHrJXFoBeFHpVW0plmPELjIMog5hn1a/1Y= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Bytes: 9289 Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: > On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:53:09 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: > >> On 3/19/2025 4:41 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:17:17 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/19/2025 4:16 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>> On 3/19/2025 4:10 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:06:44 -0500, AMuzi >>>>>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/19/2025 4:03 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 15:38:24 -0500, AMuzi >>>>>>>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/19/2025 3:36 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 13:45:15 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 05:11:53 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>>>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:00:00 +0700, John B. >>>>>>>>>>>> <slocombjb@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 04:14:24 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>>>>>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 07:50:31 +0700, John B. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <slocombjb@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 18:38:47 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 17:22:05 -0500, AMuzi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 4:55 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 4:05 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 2:54 PM, Shadow wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS Not all monarchies are "bad" per >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> se. As long as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steal too much and actually care for their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "subjects". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> []'s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But with every system, there are degrees of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plunder, death >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and destruction. Some pursue mass murder, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> horrible, others merely awful, some bearable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And as always, I'll ask: So what's the solution? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heh heh heh read some Marx! or any political >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosopher. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The dialectic is eternal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's perpetual conflict. Inherent to all human >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> societies. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In some cases civil and rhetorical, in others >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a sword, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knout, secret police or what have you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and don't discount 'civil and rhetorical' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pernicious and severe. Per Alphonse Capone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You can steal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more with a pen than a gun." The modern >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applications of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that usually start with, "For the children...". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No matter what kind of government, there will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at least one person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who wants to take control of everybody else... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and believes it's only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right and proper that he does so. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never mind governments... in any group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frankie??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a self esteem thing. When people take >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directions from someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with low esteem it makes them feel important. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter if the directions are forced on them as in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> schools, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> voluntary as in social groups. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think leaders are generally people with low >>>>>>>>>>>>>> esteem who need >>>>>>>>>>>>>> followers to make them feel important. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not, "I'm important so I will lead you." It's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more likely, "I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to feel important, so follow me." >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I can't agree with you, at least in all >>>>>>>>>>>>> circumstances. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not many senior people in the military are weak >>>>>>>>>>>>> kneaded, quite simply >>>>>>>>>>>>> because their responsibilities are already mapped >>>>>>>>>>>>> out before hey get >>>>>>>>>>>>> the job."I appoint you as in charge of aircraft >>>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance" and "if >>>>>>>>>>>>> the airplanes don't fly as scheduled you lose your >>>>>>>>>>>>> job" while probably >>>>>>>>>>>>> not spoken is understood by both parties. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Leaders" in every category are forever striving to >>>>>>>>>>>> have more power >>>>>>>>>>>> and get more control. I know that they believe they >>>>>>>>>>>> are "serving," but >>>>>>>>>>>> that's a bullshit attempt to justify their need to >>>>>>>>>>>> feel important. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Some leaders are different. Just like people are >>>>>>>>>>> different. >>>>>>>>>>> One of the first things you learn in medicine. >>>>>>>>>>> Study "Pepe" Mujica and Luiz Inacio Lula da >>>>>>>>>>> Silva. They are as >>>>>>>>>>> poor today as they were when they took office...... >>>>>>>>>>> Mujica retired last year, and wants to spend the >>>>>>>>>>> rest of his >>>>>>>>>>> life on his farm. Lula retired in 2010 intending to >>>>>>>>>>> spend his last >>>>>>>>>>> days with his family, and only came back to fight the >>>>>>>>>>> fascists here in >>>>>>>>>>> Brazil. >>>>>>>>>>> Even Jesus, who I believe existed (but as a >>>>>>>>>>> politician not a >>>>>>>>>>> character in a rather badly written fairy tale) was >>>>>>>>>>> never a >>>>>>>>>>> power/money/control grabber. And he is still a >>>>>>>>>>> "Leader" today. LOL. >>>>>>>>>>> []'s >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yeah, from what I read he seemed like an allright kind >>>>>>>>>> of guy. Too bad >>>>>>>>>> that so many people call him by the wrong name. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> C'est bon >>>>>>>>>> Soloman >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Allah? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I read somewhere that his name started with "y," but I'm >>>>>>>> pretty sure >>>>>>>> they didn't have the English alphabet then. Being a >>>>>>>> respect person, I >>>>>>>> always reffered to him as Mr. Christ. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> C'est bon >>>>>>>> Soloman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You're maybe thinking YWH, whose name shall not be spoken. >>>>>>> Oh, and The Christ is an honorific not a name. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, I knew that. I was teasing. I do that sometimes. >>>>>> ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========