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Subject: Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 10:20:13 +0100
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Le 23/03/2025 à 00:55, Subcommandante XDelta a écrit :
> Wouldn't it be lovely, if the modern Eiffel OO programming language
> and IDE, under active development, were to come back the VMS fold?
> 
> But how to make that happen?
> 
> https://www.eiffel.com/
> 
> EiffelStudio
> 
> A cost-effective way to develop quality applications
> 
> EiffelStudio is an Integrated Development Environment (IDE), that
> enable programmers to produce correct, reliable, maintainable software
> and control the development process. If you want to create fast,
> robust, scalable applications, then EiffelStudio gives you a
> cost-effective option.
> 
> Imagine being able to model your system as you think – capturing your
> requirements and your thought processes with EiffelStudio. When you
> are ready to design, you build upon the model you created.
> 
> It is just that logical and easy!
> 
> https://www.eiffel.com/eiffelstudio/system-requirements/
> 
> If my failing memory serves me, they dropped formal support for VMS
> about a decade ago, but references to VMS are all through their
> documents.
> 
> VAX/VMS, AXP/VMS, could be easily resurrected, and VSI/VMS support
> easily implemented...
> 
> I fear that Team Eiffel don't even know that VSI exists, or that VMS
> has a future.
> 
> https://www.eiffel.com/resources/faqs/eiffel-language/
> 
> https://www.eiffel.com/resources/faqs/eiffel-studio/
> 
> https://www.eiffel.org/
> 
> Quite a few Swedes there:
> 
> https://www.eiffel.com/company/customers/
> 
> Perhaps the Eiffel Team could be invited, or sponsored, to present at
> the VSI boot camp in Malmo, Sweden, in may 2025?
> 
> And given that the language is called Eiffel, perhaps the
> VMSgenerations team could weigh in on the merits of bring back Eiffel
> to the VMS fold, for the enrichment of the VMS ecosystem?
Dear Subcommandante,

Vous savez parler aux français. ("you know how to speak to the French").
Starting tomorrow, we'll be discussing it in the VMSgenerations working 
group.

For me, Eiffel is a benchmark. A great understanding of the art of 
programming. This made Eiffel a pioneer of contract programming, for 
example. And the oldest book by Bertrand Meyer (the designer of Eiffel) 
on introductory computer science (in French, well before object-oriented 
programming, for his company at the time) is one of the best books of 
its kind I've read.

I will do everything I can to follow your excellent suggestion.

Gérard Calliet