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On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 02:50:01 -0400, c186282 wrote:


>    Hey, decidedly HAD it's place and WAS quite functional y
> 
>    If weird ...

I met Chuck Moore at the Rochester NY Forth conference in the early '80s, 
speaking of weird. His new toy was a one handed keyboard. 

> 
>    I've got a 2nd/3rd/something cousin who was an astronomer. HE knows
>    FORTH very well ... THE way to program automated telescope arrays and
>    get data for a long time - maybe still.

It was/is used at Kitt Peak. It was also used at the King Khalid airport. 
There were some juicy contracts for FORTH programmers if you didn't mind 
being an infidel in Saudi Arabia. I took a pass. 

> 
>    Very tiny interpreter for a minimalist stack-oriented lang. You could
>    fit it all on 1970s boards. One step easier/clearer/portable than
>    ASM.

There is a very small kernel needed in assembler before you start building 
words. That is the beauty. You can come up with a application specific 
interface by building up the dictionary. That is also the ugly. Other than 
the core words everything is unique. Of course you can also redefine any 
word to really be obscure. 

https://archive.org/details/
R.G.LoeligerThreadedInterpretiveLanguagesTheirDesignAndImplementationByteBooks1981


it isn't specifically FORTH and targets the Z80.

>    FORTH, as best I can tell, is NOT a 'dead language'.
>    Still fills its niche. See "FlashFORTH" for PIC and ATMega.

https://hackaday.io/project/170826-zeptoforth

Zeptoforth runs on a variety of Cortex-M boards. It has a large, 
sophisticated dictionary.


>    ANYway, I still habitually load it every time I install a new distro.
>    Several others too.
>    Note the Code:Blocks environment ... install the the compilers first,
>    then install CB.
>    It will mostly find/incorp the compilers at first startup.
> 
>    Always have GNU 'C' ... but also CLANG and TinyC and 'D'/DMD and ....

I have gcc and clang. My IDE of choice is VS Code. It has extensions for 
almost everything.