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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
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Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test
Date: 25 Mar 2025 17:33:47 GMT
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Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
> On 25 Mar 2025 08:02:38 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
> 
>> Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> On 3/24/2025 6:02 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I like to wear helmet for extra protection against a fall. I do agree 
>>>> that for me even running with a helmet would be good since I have no 
>>>> balance to run anymore. However, Frank is I think in the minority about 
>>>> helmets...
>>> 
>>> Nope, that's not true. In the current echo chamber of avid sport 
>>> cyclists I am a minority. But very I'm comfortable with not following 
>>> most of the group's trends. I don't use clipless pedals, I don't use 
>>> brifters or disk brakes, I don't ride in jerseys that advertise my 
>>> favorite products or my favorite racing team, I don't use aerodynamic 
>>> sunglasses, etc.
>>> 
>>> But in the total population of world cyclists, it's the helmet wearers 
>>> who are a definite minority.
>>> 
>>>> ... and while he may have data to support it sometimes we humans 
>>>> overlook data. I rely sometimes only on intuition and what I think might 
>>>> be good. 
>>> 
>>> That's a common human trait. It leads to lots of bad decisions, but it's 
>>> common. It's usually wiser to pay attention to good data, when it's 
>>> available.
>>> 
>>>> I really don't understand the length's Frank goes to dis 
>>>> helmets but maybe I am simply taking it more than it is. 
>>> 
>>> If you check, you'll see I never initiate helmet debates. But when 
>>> someone else - um, like you, Mark! - starts stating or implying that 
>>> helmets have great benefit, and/or states or implies that bicycling is a 
>>> serious risk for brain injury, I do point out that those notions are false.
>>> 
>>> Bicycling has never been a major source of serious traumatic brain 
>>> injury (TBI). On a nationwide basis, bicycling's contribution to TBI 
>>> counts is low enough to be off most "causes" charts. Bicycling causes 
>>> fewer then 1% of U.S. TBI deaths, far fewer than pedestrian travel, and 
>>> far fewer on a "per mile" basis. And historic data over the years shows 
>>> quite clearly that bicycle helmets are not preventing either fatalities 
>>> or concussions.
>>> 
>>> Data on request - but it's been posted or linked countless times.
>>> 
>>> 
>> Helmets for cycle safety are distraction to use one of UK bike
>> personalities/transport experts aka Chris Boardman.
>> 
>> With cycling the danger and risk is almost entirely introduced by
>> motorists, which should be the focus.
>> 
>> Helmet “debates” as ever seem to go nowhere as folks have such intrenched
>> positions.
>> 
>> Roger Merriman
> 
> I can't understand why anyone argues about wearing helmets other than
> about making it mandatory. Whether on not a person wears a helmet has
> no effect on anyone else. As for laws about adults wearing them, they
> are gradually falling by the wayside.
> 
> --
> C'est bon
> Soloman
> 

Get it required by organisations and organised events which is admittedly a
low percentage of cyclists ie folks who are club members and/or Sportives
etc which often requires helmets commonly due to insurance.

Roger Merriman