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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: 25 Mar 2025 20:00:21 GMT Lines: 55 Message-ID: <m4ggalF1o7oU1@mid.individual.net> References: <vrru3v$152e3$3@dont-email.me> <B0kEP.112929$Xq5f.111799@fx38.iad> <f9k3ujl9ev5nopn2f329cuesca36o9c7j0@4ax.com> <vrskop$1qlue$1@dont-email.me> <vrt0d6$24h8c$2@dont-email.me> <2fp4uj55n6mfnmn75jk6ocvuuivrkno6em@4ax.com> <vruduc$3fet8$4@dont-email.me> <vruh2i$3i4m5$1@dont-email.me> <t2k5ujpftk2qp2f8jdn4tsa94fsbmu5c5m@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net PsuyVEqf7WqcgtllxGTOJAuNsmoALlwmUMwimmfhhQCSUgyhow Cancel-Lock: sha1:3yeOtnlTFEI2GDhkIQZIRVqPd8k= sha1:YT1rII404VyeZrerm9hxuhkUkhU= sha256:oIzKhrP3Wp4Vf5NgDFBtAido1bSezAo05E1K2gWIcfA= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 11:11:14 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> >>> On 3/25/2025 4:19 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote: >>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 21:20:38 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bicycling has never been a major source of serious traumatic brain >>>>> injury (TBI). On a nationwide basis, bicycling's contribution to TBI >>>>> counts is low enough to be off most "causes" charts. Bicycling causes >>>>> fewer then 1% of U.S. TBI deaths, far fewer than pedestrian travel, and >>>>> far fewer on a "per mile" basis. And historic data over the years shows >>>>> quite clearly that bicycle helmets are not preventing either fatalities >>>>> or concussions. >>>> >>>> Impossible to document that. >> >> Wrong, as usual. >> >> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7025438/ >> >> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-35728-x >> >> https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-Releases/2021/New-CDC-Report-Finds-More-Adults-Are-Dying-from-Bicycle-Related-Accidents-CPSC-Says-it-Highlights-the-Importance-of-Helmets >> >> https://www.nsc.org/safety-first/bicycle-safety-statistics-may-surprise-you?srsltid=AfmBOoq4LC_IGLItTnDBXBm4Yu6K20nqSHjsZbqpkk-jQ2y4Y1J7hfbf >> >> https://biausa.org/public-affairs/media/keep-your-brain-safe-while-biking >> >> https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/150/3/e2022058878/188764/Helmet-Use-in-Preventing-Head-Injuries-in?autologincheck=redirected >> >> These all contradict Frank, but that isn't the point of this message. >> >> The point of this message is to point out, once again, your >> unsubstantiated conclusions rooted in willful ignorance. > > How one would go about proving that bicycle helmets are not preventing > either fatalities or concussions? > > > -- > C'est bon > Soloman > There are a few countries that have mandated helmets, such as Australia which to the best of the knowledge the rate of injuries and extent didn’t change ie helmets at a population level made no difference, which is one of the reasons it fails to get though legislation in uk when ever someone tries a private bill. Roger Merriman